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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:28:00 AM
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison has proposed using the war funding supplemental to give thousands of Chrysler dealers slated for closure next month a temporary reprieve.

Senate Bill 1054

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reasons why government should stay out of private business.

neopuritan
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:58:00 AM
Dumb blonde: "What do you mean the account is overdrawn, I still have checks left!"
MARKQ
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:03:00 AM
I am no fan of the auto bailout or anything else that has transpired concerning the big three. However, it is pretty crappy of Chrysler to cancel the dealers contract, refuse the buy back their cars and inventory of parts (many of which Chrysler was begging them to take not long ago), and give them less than 1 months time to unload their inventory. The court will allow Chrysler to cancel their contract. However, IMO they should have a little more time to wind down operations and sell off or trade their inventory so the owners of the dealerships don't get screwed in the deal any worse than they already have.
DrMaddVibe
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:18:00 AM
"RED ALERT: Did anti-Obama campaign contributions dictate which Chrysler dealers were shuttered?

A tipster alerted me to an interesting assertion. A cursory review by that person showed that many of the Chrysler dealers on the closing list were heavy Republican donors.

To quickly review the situation, I took all dealer owners whose names appeared more than once in the list. And, of those who contributed to political campaigns, every single one had donated almost exclusively to GOP candidates. While this isn't an exhaustive review, it does have some ominous implications if it can be verified.

However, I also found additional research online at Scribd (author unknown), which also appears to point to a highly partisan decision-making process.

Consider the partial list of Chrysler dealership owners, listed below. You'll notice that all were opponents of Barack Obama, most through sponsorship of GOP candidates and organizations, but a handful through Barack's Democrat rivals (Hillary Clinton and John Edwards in 2008, for example).

• Vernon G. Buchanan: $147,450 to GOP candidates and organizations

• Wallace D. Alley and Family: $4,500 to GOP.

• Robert Archer: $4,600 to GOP and conservative causes.

• Homer S. Higginbotham and Family: $2950 to GOP.

• James Auffenberg and Family: $28,000 to GOP; $6,000 to one Democrat candidate.

• Michael Maroone and Family: $60,000 to GOP; $8,500 to two Democrat candidates.

• Jerome Fader: $6,500 to Democrats; $2,500 to Independent Joe Lieberman.

• Stephen Fay and Family: $13,500 to GOP.

• William Numrich: $20,000 to GOP.

• Robert Carver: $10,000 to Democrats including $1,950 to Hillary Clinton, nothing to Barack Obama."

For entire story go to....

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/05/red-alert-did-campaign-contributions.html 

topper7788
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:46:00 AM
DMV,

No news there, MOST car dealers are very pro-Republican (its a pro business, lower taxes thing).. Actually, I can only think of a couple of dealers that I know that vote for any Democrats...

teedubbya
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:14:00 PM
after reading things like

A tipster alerted me ....

A cursory review by that person showed....

To quickly review the situation.......

While this isn’t an exhaustive review......

I also found additional research online at Scribd (author unknown).....

I hear Charlie Brown's teacher. What a load of dog****.

topper7788
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:19:00 PM
TW,

saying the most of the car dealers closed by Chrysler are Republicans, is as much news as saying that most of the African Americans that voted for Obama were Democrats..!!!

teedubbya
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:24:00 PM
did you know most women named shaneequa are black?
teedubbya
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:25:00 PM
also towns\cities that have more churches have more violent crime..... of cource they have more people typically as well but thats just a detail
DrafterX
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:26:00 PM
^ CROS knows her....
jpotts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:37:00 PM
9. Author: teedubbya Date: 05/26/2009 04:25 PM Reply

also towns\cities that have more churches have more violent crime..... of cource they have more people typically as well but thats just a detail

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It also doesn't help that some of these dealerships being shot down had good sales numbers, and some of those kept on were already on the rocks.

But your apology for His Excellency Barack (Idi Amin) Hussein (boy whiner) Obama is accepted.

teedubbya
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:40:00 PM
lol potts. I can always count on you to make me smile.
teedubbya
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:40:00 PM
by the way the church thing is a famously flawed study that proved churches increase violence.
topper7788
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:46:00 PM
guys,

From what I understand there was specific criteria used, many stores that were closed including my partners knew they were in trouble... Basically if you were below market share you were a target, ad to that below average CSI scores and/or poor capitalization and you were done especially if you were in a over dealers metro market.

The dealer opposite my store even though he was the only dealer in the market had terrible market penetration.. No real surprise he was terminated..

Now believe it or not Lawrence is now considered an open point with Chrysler looking for a dealer!!!! what a country huh?

teedubbya
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:54:00 PM
^ not relevant. facts should not be allowed to cloud the issue
topper7788
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:03:00 PM
^

Sorry, won't happen again!!!!

jpotts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:03:00 PM
14. Author: topper7788 Date: 05/26/2009 04:46 PM Reply

guys,

From what I understand there was specific criteria used, many stores that were closed including my partners knew they were in trouble... Basically if you were below market share you were a target, ad to that below average CSI scores and/or poor capitalization and you were done especially if you were in a over dealers metro market.

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Ummm...that's not what I'm hearing around here. There are several dealers who are going to court over the decision made.

People who weren't "in trouble" got their dealership yanked away from them and given to people who were actually in trouble.

I came in on the tail end of the interview so I didn't get the names of the dealerships involved.

teedubbya
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:05:00 PM
"There are several dealers who are going to court over the decision made. "

well that proves it. no one would go to court unless they had merit.

damn that obama using this issue to target folks on his ememy list.

thanks for clarifying things POTTS...

I unaccept all your apologies

jpotts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:12:00 PM
Yes. Going to court and losing will cost all of these owners nothing. They have tons of money to throw around. Seriously, guys, do all of you guys believe that this was all done based on performance?

I've worked long enough with the auto companies to know that performance is a secondary considerartion.

topper7788
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:14:00 PM
potts,

Many, many dealers were not in financial trouble, although I am sure some were.. They used market penetration and the primary matrix then factored in CSI, capitalization, profitability etc.. That's what I was told by both dealers and factory people... remember I was a Chrysler dealer guy for over 20 years..

Profitability was not even a primary concern... You could be losing a fortune but be hitting your market numbers and be exceeding your capitol requirements and be fine...