Cousin_Eddie
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:58:00 AM
What happens to all the people that own GM common stock? Do they get wiped out or do they get new shares in the "new" GM?
usahog
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:09:00 AM
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usahog
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:09:00 AM
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usahog
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:09:00 AM
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PecanPi1
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:20:00 AM
**hiccup**
herfsnipe
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:18:00 AM
In GM's case, they're not liquidating. They are however, rapidly downsizing and restructuring. What's going to emerge will be a very small car company in comparison. They'll bet the farm on smaller, more fuel efficient cars. They'll keep the Chevy and GMC brands and reduce the line of vehicles. They're not going to be able to pay workers like they used to. Their legacy cost per vehicle now is around $3,500. They have to either eliminate that altogether or significantly reduce it just to stay in business altogether.

So if you are currently a GM shareholder, keep in mind the government is in there with you. I don't know this for a fact, but I suspect they will NOT cancel the current shares. They trade on the pink sheets for now but to trade on the NYSE, they need to stay above $1.

Once the emerge from bankruptcy, GM may very well do a reverse split. Usually 1 for 10 just to bring the share price up. Then they'll likely do a secondary public offering at the new share price to raise working capital. This is speculation of course and I know nothing of their plans, and the government will have a very large say.

If you are a shareholder, you may as well bite the bullet now. The future is NOT bright for GM. It may take years for them to return to profitability if ever. I feel your cash is better invested elsewhere.

Just my humble opinion.

topper7788
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:01:00 AM
"New GM" is a privately held company and will not be traded... (yet)

Ownership:

US Treasury 60%

Canada Gov. 12.5

UAW 17.5

Bond holders

$ other creditors 10%

Stock is basically worthless as it is stock in "Old GM"

herfsnipe
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:01:00 AM
I'll add this.

Just saw a headline from CNBC. If the court approves GM's curent plan, GM will sell itself to to a NEW GM. That means current stock and bondholders will get wiped out. Just saw it. Not 2 minutes ago on CNBC.

I don't own any GM, but I'd sell now if I did.

gringococolo
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 4:24:00 AM
My advice is to ask for an actual stock certificate. You will feel much better actually having something of value that you can fram and laugh at. GM STOCKHOLDERS will get jack doo doo.

I made the mistake of buying a stock in bankruptcy years ago thinking it was cheap and would come back. Doesn't happen. I wish I had the wall decoration.

topper7788
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:16:00 PM
"edited" to pertain to the thread...

NEW YORK (Reuters) -- If General Motors wins court approval for its asset sale this week, a "New GM" could be ready to make an initial public offering in 2010, a U.S. Treasury official testified in U.S. bankruptcy court today.

The official, Harry Wilson, a member of the Obama administration's auto task force, was in court to argue that the only viable option to save GM is a sale of its main assets to a "New GM" backed by the federal government, as the automaker sought court approval for the deal.

"We could not find any reasonable measure of opinion from anyone ... who felt that General Motors could survive a traditional Chapter 11," Wilson told the court.

He testified that last December the government was "effectively the lender of last resort" for GM, which gave it significant leverage over the automaker's restructuring. He said the government wants GM to stay in bankruptcy for only 30 to 40 days.

Wilson estimated that GM has received $10 billion in funding since its bankruptcy filing. The U.S. government provided the bulk of the funding, with about 15 percent coming from the Canadian government, he said.

If the GM deal is approved, the company will be able to sell its best assets, including Chevrolet and Cadillac, under Section 363 of the bankruptcy code to a "New GM," while the U.S. Treasury would provide $60 billion in financing to GM, including a proposed $50 billion that would give the U.S. Treasury a 60 percent ownership stake in the company.

Under the government-backed plan, the UAW would gain a 17.5 percent stake in New GM, the Canadian government would own about 12 percent, and GM bondholders are expected to get about 10 percent.

GM's old assets would remain behind in bankruptcy court to be liquidated.

No competing bidders have emerged as an alternative to the U.S. government's plan for the automaker.

donutboy2000
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 6:25:00 PM
Redistribution of wealth
pacman357
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 7:06:00 PM
#3 C'mon, Hog. Don't expect a lawyer to use that! Remember, we're the profession that decided to call a 108 page document filed with the court a "brief"!