neopuritan
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:29:00 PM
Is reading and/or manipulating another person's personal email, without consent, a criminal offense?

TIA

Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:33:00 PM
Yes it is, but it's very difficult to enforce.
usahog
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:36:00 PM
^ I just seen this one the CSI NY show last night...

wireless hack into another persons PC and email...

pacman357
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:37:00 PM
Wellllllll...it's going to depend on the laws applicable to the jurisdiction, but most (if not all) states have laws on the books to cover that sort of thing. Also, because so much internet traffic crosses state lines, there's always going to be at least a question about whether any federal law(s) has(ve) been violated. Pretty safe bet that it's illegal, but not a sure thing unless a law in the jurisdiction covers that.

I don't have time to research every state, BTW. You'd be surprised how long it takes the law to catch up to changes in technology some times. I sure wouldn't risk it, however.

usahog
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:41:00 PM
^I'd contact your Internet email provider and ask them? and your local AG office...
Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:41:00 PM
RE #3

Was that for me or neo?

Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:42:00 PM
RE #4

Pac,

It is illegal on the fedral level.

usahog
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:43:00 PM
^ Both on the show last night...
neopuritan
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:46:00 PM
Not me, folks. Just trying to counsel a young person who did it.
neopuritan
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:47:00 PM
Pac: FL
Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:47:00 PM
Okay.

I don't get my answers or knowledge from fictional TV crime dramas though.

Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:54:00 PM
Neo,

That kind of behavior can lead into an extremely messy and costly legal situation.

I've had server & router logs subpoenaed due to someone pulling stunts like that and the case dragged on for seven, eight months, maybe longer.

Messy...

usahog
Thursday, July 9, 2009 2:36:00 PM
#11...

My OP above was strickly an observation off the top of my head kind of thing...

my initial thought last night and in my OP above was better firewall...

fictional or not.. it looks as though from Neo's post these types of things really do happen?

Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, July 9, 2009 3:12:00 PM
" it looks as though from Neo’s post these types of things really do happen? "

All the time bro, all the time...

The fact that people don't set up security on their wireless routers or when they do they use default passwords or stupid passwords like their street address, the name of their dog, the model car they drive, and so on, doesn't help matters.

Most of the time though they are benign and it's just router access. It's just the thrill of guessing a password correctly or succuessfully being able to implement the dictionary attack software ("script kiddie", a person, usually a minor, who thinks they are a "hacker" and goes around bragging about their "hacks" because they succuessfully downloaded and ran software that someone else wrote which exploted a system or device. "Script Kiddie" is not an endearing term...).

The best I can come up with for an analogy is likening it to joyriding on a deserted road back before we were old enough to drive. Sure it was illegal, but we didn't really do any damage, and it gave us great bragging rights. Especially if we were able to swipe a few beers from the refrigerator beforehand.

Breaking into someone's email is usually done with a purpose - to see some information, or to send an email to someone "All your base belong to us! -signed script kiddie" as proof for bragging rights.

Let's face it, most people's email boxes are just filled with crap anyway...

It's when it gets onto a corporate level that things get ugly, and the legal claws come out.

neopuritan
Thursday, July 9, 2009 5:17:00 PM
The situation:

The perpetrator, observing an open email account, on which computer was temporarily unattended, sat down and manipulated email, to wit, sent, altered, and deleted messages, then left.

HockeyDad
Thursday, July 9, 2009 5:31:00 PM
Waterboard?
Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, July 9, 2009 5:39:00 PM
"The perpetrator, observing an open email account, on which computer was temporarily unattended, sat down and manipulated email, to wit, sent, altered, and deleted messages, then left. "

Hurmmm, I had figured the alleged perpetrator had broken into the account remotely...

There was no security compromise or "hacking", etc. so I'm not really certain where this one falls. Probably illegal, but I can't definately say.

I can tell you this though, if the alleged perpetrator had done this in a corporate environment, his ass would probably be fired on the spot, and possibly even dragged into civil court on "corporate sabotage" or something similiar depending on what the nature of the sent/deleted emails were. (I've seen this happen)

JadeRose
Thursday, July 9, 2009 5:41:00 PM
Sounds like the stupid crap that goes on at work all the time. If you leave your computer unprotected, there is a very good chance that you will send a gay love note to every guy in the department. Bassards!!!
pabloescabar
Thursday, July 9, 2009 5:43:00 PM
...ha ha
MACS
Thursday, July 9, 2009 5:43:00 PM
Whatever you do... do not leave your e-mail open at work unattended.

In my line of work one of your co-workers will send an e-mail to the whole team proclaiming your undying love for American Idol and all things rainbow.