Just frustrates the hell out of me...so i go to golf galaxy and pick a driver to hit on one of those places where they measure launch angle and just about everything but what you ate that day...

They taped up a TaylorMade R9 460 Driver, Stiff Shaft, and 9 or 9.5 degrees of loft...and i was launching it at 23 degrees...thats insane and cutting on my distance...

Looks like its time to take a lesson or else i will never score under 85...

^... nice clubs ... I've got an older set of the titanium drivers (mediums) with oversized grips ... the drive well - but are very unforgiving (hooking) on me ...

Dude...I golfed for a few years, although it has been quite a while. Even with that, I don't understand your post.

But carry on...

Well i hit the ball decent and generally score mid 80's to mid 90's....just depends on the day...but i have always complained of hitting the ball too high (yeah, bring on the Major League, the movie, references)...tried teeing it lower, lower lofts, etc..and nothing...nada...so asking the great cigarbid forum (where at least one person always has an opinion...yeah, i know what you are thinking...nah, not here)...

Ok..am babbling...

Pac - it's the "pitch" of the face of the club ... it determines the trajectory of the golf ball ... too much "pitch" (degrees) and the golf ball goes "higher" in the air but doesn't travel as far ... less pitch drives the ball further - but not as high in the air ... this is why you play with more than one club ...

Thats the problem pack...the ball doesnt carry as far...the ball takes off too high from my club...dont have that great penetrating golf flight (ok, you watch...wheel will do a search on penetrating and find this thread)...

^ ... sounds like you're hitting under the ball too far when teeing off ...

Will try moving the ball back in my stance...but that doesnt feel comfortable...feels like i am going to hit a big push...but oh well...time to redo the swing...just pains me to hit the ball that damn high...

... try some driving with setting the balls from the tees about the height of a finger from the ground ...

... you'd probably be willing to kill someone to get ahold of my #9 (yes 9) wood ...

... it is the "go to" club when you're in a pinch on the fairway - gets about 125-140yds out of it on a drive ... very forgiving club ...

Well will tee it up lower the next time i go to driving range...and try to come across the ball instead of hitting the ball...read something about starting off with hitting 1/4 swings to get the feel for the motion...

... I swing it like a baseball bat anyway ... I can drive the ball close to 300yds on a good swing ...

... my problem is that I only get 1 out of 3 of 4 drives that goes where I want it ... I lose about 1/3rd of the balls off the tee ... not even worth going after them ...

Hahahaa...been there...

With the high launch angle right now i can carry 250...but when i do hit it a low-penetrating flight i can hit 300...i dont lose that many balls...and have gotten rid of slice...just want those extra yards lowering my launch angle would give me...

... I'll admit it ... if I can come in under 100 ... I'm happy ... but there are times (good driving days) that I've been under par ... not that often ... but I've actually shot a 68 before on a course that I used to play all the time ... never have done it again either and only got 1 hole in 1 that was a complete accident off of a par 3 - couldn't find my ball and my BIL looked in the hole and started laughing at me ... I'd only been golfing like 2-3 times before that and had no idea what a hole-in-one actually was ... didn't think much of it at the time ...

... but I still suck at golf ...

Well, I understand loft and club face angles. I'm guessing that if you project with a higher loft, your swing is farked up somehow. Hitting too far under it?

Oh hell, I don't know. I should already be heading home. G'night.

geesh Pac ... you still at work? GO HOME !!!

PAC...go home...jeeze...now i feel guilty for bringing up this topic that took all your attention...

Well i generally shoot mid 80's to mid 90's...and lowest score is an 81...no holes in one neither...but i keep duffing at it with my weapons of grass distruction...

LOL. I'm going. Buh-bye.

Rasdas,,

Mnay golfers Tee their ball way too high.

So,try playing the ball off your left heel and teeing it down.

And think ROTATION,,,

wheel,

rasdas - Try moving the ball back in your stance, as you mentioned above. To counteract the mental anxiety this will most surely cause, concentrate on making a nice, smooth, full swing - even shortening your backswing temporarily if necessarily.

The best golf tip I ever got was to "be a swinger of the club, not a hitter of the ball".