GreenWolf70
Saturday, September 19, 2009 7:28:00 AM
Let's start the list of what Obama has promised and what he has done.

Promises:

Pro-America

Pro-Gun

Pro-Family

Pro-Christian

Pro-Life

Cut the budget

Get out of Iraq

Keep America safe

Close down Gitmo

No health care coverage for Illegals

No increase in the deficit because of health care

Transparency in legislation

Stop Corruption

No Lobbyists in Administration

I've probably missed a few promises. So feel free to add to list.

I'll let you guys list the broken promises and outright lies.

Now how many of these issues does anyone see as Race related?

xibbumbero
Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:14:00 AM
A couple of dozen more lies and he'll be just like Dubya,LOL. X
HockeyDad
Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:19:00 AM
^Apology accepted.
8trackdisco
Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:19:00 AM
Politicians don't lie. That make YOU a liar.
HockeyDad
Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:21:00 AM
GWB isn't much of a standard to try and match.

If President Obama killed 20 million more people, he would be just like Stalin. Set your sights higher. LOL.

JonR
Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:06:00 AM
Yo X:

"A couple of dozen more lies and he’ll be just like Dubya,LOL. X"

I see you are a Rickamaven aka Shorty disciple, however get with the times, this 2009, G.W. is out and "LYING obama" is in. You remember obama, he is the one who paid $750,000,000 to become a "TV STAR".

LMAO!

JonR

DrMaddVibe
Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:44:00 AM
Does He Lie? - by Charles Krauthammer

You lie? No. Barack Obama doesn’t lie. He’s too subtle for that. He ... well, you judge.

Herewith three examples within a single speech -- the now-famous Obama-Wilson "you lie" address to Congress on health care -- of Obama’s relationship with truth.

(1) "I will not sign (a plan)," he solemnly pledged, "if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future. Period."

Wonderful. The president seems serious, veto-ready, determined to hold the line. Until, notes Harvard economist Greg Mankiw, you get to Obama’s very next sentence: "And to prove that I’m serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don’t materialize."

This apparent strengthening of the pledge brilliantly and deceptively undermines it. What Obama suggests is that his plan will require mandatory spending cuts if the current rosy projections prove false. But there’s absolutely nothing automatic about such cuts. Every Congress is sovereign. Nothing enacted today will force a future Congress or a future president to make any cuts in any spending, mandatory or not.

Just look at the supposedly automatic Medicare cuts contained in the Sustainable Growth Rate formula enacted to constrain out-of-control Medicare spending. Every year since 2003, Congress has waived the cuts.

Mankiw puts the Obama bait-and-switch in plain language. "Translation: I promise to fix the problem. And if I do not fix the problem now, I will fix it later, or some future president will, after I am long gone. I promise he will. Absolutely, positively, I am committed to that future president fixing the problem. You can count on it. Would I lie to you?"

(2) And then there’s the famous contretemps about health insurance for illegal immigrants. Obama said they would not be insured. Well, all four committee-passed bills in Congress allow illegal immigrants to take part in the proposed Health Insurance Exchange.

But more importantly, the problem is that laws are not self-enforcing. If they were, we’d have no illegal immigrants because, as I understand it, it’s illegal to enter the United States illegally. We have laws against burglary, too. But we also provide for cops and jails on the assumption that most burglars don’t voluntarily turn themselves in.

When Republicans proposed requiring proof of citizenship, the Democrats twice voted that down in committee. Indeed, after Rep. Joe Wilson’s "You lie!" shout-out, the Senate Finance Committee revisited the language of its bill to prevent illegal immigrants from getting any federal benefits. Why would the Finance Committee fix a nonexistent problem?

(3) Obama said he would largely solve the insoluble cost problem of Obamacare by eliminating "hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud" from Medicare.

That’s not a lie. That’s not even deception. That’s just an insult to our intelligence. Waste, fraud and abuse -- Meg Greenfield once called this phrase "the dread big three" -- as the all-purpose piggy bank for budget savings has been a joke since Jimmy Carter first used it in 1977.

Moreover, if half a trillion is waiting to be squeezed painlessly out of Medicare, why wait for health care reform? If, as Obama repeatedly insists, Medicare overspending is breaking the budget, why hasn’t he gotten started on the painless billions in "waste and fraud" savings?

Obama doesn’t lie. He merely elides, gliding from one dubious assertion to another. This has been the story throughout his whole health care crusade. Its original premise was that our current financial crisis was rooted in neglect of three things -- energy, education and health care. That transparent attempt to exploit Emanuel’s Law -- a crisis is a terrible thing to waste -- failed for health care because no one is stupid enough to believe that the 2008 financial collapse was caused by a lack of universal health care.

So on to the next gambit: selling health care reform as a cure for the deficit. When that was exploded by the Congressional Budget Office’s demonstration of staggering Obamacare deficits, Obama tried a new tack: selling his plan as revenue-neutral insurance reform -- until the revenue neutrality is exposed as phony future cuts and chimerical waste and fraud.

Obama doesn’t lie. He implies, he misdirects, he misleads -- so fluidly and incessantly that he risks transmuting eloquence into mere slickness.

Slickness wasn’t fatal to "Slick Willie" Clinton because he possessed a winning, near irresistible charm. Obama’s persona is more cool, distant, imperial. The charming scoundrel can get away with endless deception; the righteous redeemer cannot.

donutboy2000
Saturday, September 19, 2009 2:16:00 PM
#2

The best argument you have is Obama is bad, but GWB was worse?

DrMaddVibe
Saturday, September 19, 2009 3:07:00 PM
It's all in the playbook.

He's just sticking to the script.

I bet he can read a mean teleprompter too!

donutboy2000
Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:02:00 PM
The sky is blue!
drywalldog
Saturday, September 19, 2009 7:20:00 PM
Krauthammer is generally considered a conservative; he has also been called a neoconservative. However, on domestic issues, Krauthammer is a supporter of legalized abortion; an opponent of the death penalty; an intelligent design critic and an advocate for the scientific consensus on evolution, calling the religion-science controversy a "false conflict;" a supporter of embryonic stem cell research using embryos discarded by fertility clinics with restrictions in its applications; and a longtime advocate of radically higher energy taxes to induce conservation.

Don't know if you can believe or trust what this man says, afterall he goes against everything the right is for, including abortion, stem cell research and the death penalty. Well hell he probably lies like his bed pal Obama.

Cigarick
Saturday, September 19, 2009 7:33:00 PM
Of course he lied.

He's a politician.

All incumbents out.

GreenWolf70
Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:12:00 PM
Is it just me, or does Obama have more in common with Hugo Chavez and Castro than Bill Clinton or George Bush? I have this weird, but persistent, feeling that Obama will not willingly give up power when the time comes. We have never had that problem before.
pacman357
Sunday, September 20, 2009 12:01:00 AM
Good grief. Yeah, he's anti-America. What an inane list. Yeah, I can't count the number of speeches he's given where he just slams the country.

Pro gun? Exactly how do you define where he claimed to be pro gun? Did he say he'd stash a 12 gauge under the desk in the oval office? Yet another idiotic claim.

Pro family. Well, you got him there. I caught part of his weekend address last week where he encouraged kids to sneak into mommy and daddy's bedroom and kill them in their sleep.

Pro Christian. Right...he's secretly Muslim. I mean, we're all still sticking to that racist lie, right?

Keep America safe...did I miss another plane attack? Were more buildings destroyed? Oh wait, that happened on Dubbya's watch.

I can't even go through the entire list. I'm laughing too hard. One specific item, however...he hasn't pushed for health care for illegal immigrants. And it's usually the job of legislative bodies to write laws, although he could certainly have one drawn up and press to get that passed. However, you're criticizing him for the work of other people, namely those who have written the laws.

On top of that, you're wrong. The latest version under consideration by the House doesn't exclude illegals, but it does prevent them from accessing any subsidies that might be included, depending on the final version of any bill voted upon...assuming it ever reaches that stage. The bill's exact language: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully in the United States." Health care legislation in the Senate is also being crafted to exclude illegal immigrants from coverage. So illegals could buy into it, but they'd have to pay full cost.

Here's a lie from you:

GreenWolf: pro-fact. You haven't supplied any, except one specific area, and you're wrong. You need to stop watching Fox "News" and start reading the bill for yourself. BTW, there has not been any change in the deficit due to health care, because no health care bill has passed, numbnuts.

pacman357
Sunday, September 20, 2009 12:02:00 AM
#13 "I have this weird, but persistent, feeling that Obama will not willingly give up power when the time comes." That's called paranoia, sir.
GreenWolf70
Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:47:00 AM
Let me see, a President that ran on a Centrist theme and now surrounds himself with Leftist radicals who believe they are better suited to run the USA than any elected officials, or those confirmed by the Senate. Then he punishes a nation (Honduras) for following their constitution in ridding themselves of a president, who was clearly trying to set himself up as a dictator. He avows to radically and fundamentally change this country but won't say how. Yes,I'm a little paranoid, and getting worse.

Pro-America promise in Campaign - First foreign trip as President was the Apology Tour.

Pro-Gun promise during Campaign - Appointed anti-gun AG, in whose first press conference he promised to bring America's guns under control.

Pro-Family, Obama promised to protect the Family unit if elected - Recently called for repeal of the Defense of Family Act at a conference of Gays and Lesbians hosted by the White House.

Pro-Christian, Obama continuously maintained he was a Christian and a supporter of Christian values before the election - He has not celebrated a single Christian holiday at the White House, nor even attended Church since being elected. Dissenters to his policies are portrayed as religious fanatics.

Pro-Life promise during Campaign - promptly appointed abortionist as head of Health Services. Current proposed Health Care Bills will result in federal funding for abortion.

Cut the budget promise during campaign - Deficit increased over $1 Trillion this year since he took office. Health Care looks to add more. Cap&Trade more still.

Get out of Iraq - We are still there.

Keep America safe - CIA lawyering up over AG investigations. Interesting to wee what info comes out of Al Qeda agent captured in CO. If he has any time sensitive info will it be exposed in time? New York and Germany are threatened in latest AQ Internet rants.

Close down Gitmo - Maybe.

No health care coverage for Illegals - Dems continue to strike down any legislation that would allow enforcement of no illegals on health care.

No increase in the deficit because of health care - new proposed bill would only increase deficit by $880 Billion.

Transparency in legislation - None so far. Was there any discussion of the Stim Act, Cap & Trade, or Health Care on the floors of the House or Senate.

Stop Corruption - In House it seems that you must be indicted, or under investigation, to chair a Committee. Then there is ACORN...who gave them $8,2 Billion in funding in the Stimulus Bill

No Lobbyists in Administration - GE CEO Jeff Immelt controls the news for the administration. Most of Admin are ex-lobbyists. Skirted US Constitution by appointing Czars to functional super-cabinet positions (Cabinet Secretaries report to Czars?). One avowed Communist was tossed out, but only after that bad Glenn Beck exposed him on that radical network Fox News.

Bipartisanship?

Buckwheat
Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:06:00 AM
Wolf - I don't remember BO promissing anything on most of your list of "lies". Plus #1 is a very subjective thing (as are a couple of the other things).

DMV - No plan to sign.

GreenWolf70
Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:14:00 PM
Go back and look. He was promising everything to everybody.
jimmy@ctconnect.com
Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:18:00 PM
... at least GW wasn't trying to sell us out to the Muslim world whacko's ...
robertknyc
Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:33:00 PM
A friend of mine just got a new bumper sticker that I saw last night. Using the Obama campaign symbol for the letter "O" it says "You Lie!"

http://www.zazzle.com/obama_you_lie_bumpbersticker_bumper_sticker-128351204861214838