baracuda
Sunday, January 23, 2005 1:38:00 PM
The following is a compilation of posts, originated by some of the VETS on this board, to help the newbie. My attempt is to put as much info possible, in one post, if anyone else would like to add-on please do.

Thanks to :

Cigar Bid

SKETCHA

KNOF

SLIMBOLI

FERG

BUCKY B93

GOODY

and any others who had input in these post

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...........................................................THE NEWBIE TRADE................................................................................

NEWBIE Trade - This thread is where newbies should go to develop a positive rep with the vets on the board. Any newbie will be paired with a veteran. The veteran will ask for something, and if the newbie agrees will send the package. Upon receipt the veteran will put together a generally too big, and too generous package to kick start the newbies cigar obsession. See the Newbie Trade thread and Post there to be included.

One more thing - be proactive and by more storage NOW.

.......................................................... A TRADE CALLED P I F .............................................................................

The basic rules... PIF = Pay it forward ...

In a PIF, somebody asks, "Who wants free cigars?". The first person to respond that they want some free cigars, gets to receive some cigars from the person offering. The "suggested minimum" PIF package is 5 premium smokes. You are encouraged to send more, but no less please.

If you don't have a few quality smokes, PLEASE BUY SOME, then play. 🙂

It is then their turn to ask if anyone wants free cigars within a [approx] 24-hour time frame. It is then their job to send free cigars to the first person that responds.

Winners will be limited to one win in 7 days. The key here is to be fair, make new friends, and have a little fun...

...............................................................A TRADE CALLED P I B ............................................................................

The basic rules..........PIB = Pay it Back ...

In a PIB, somebody asks, "Who wants to send me free cigars?". The first person to respond that they want to send some free cigars, gets to send some cigars to the person asking the question. The "suggested minimum" PIB package is 5 premium smokes. You are encouraged to send more, but no less please.

If you don't have a few quality smokes, PLEASE BUY SOME, then play. 🙂

It is then their turn to ask if anyone wants to send some free cigars within a [approx] 24-hour time frame. The first person to respond will send the asker some smokes, and so on, and on . . .

Winners will be limited to one win in 7 days. The key here is to be fair and have a little fun...

.............................................................A TRADE CALLED T T T...............................................................................

The basic rules ....... TTT = Top This Trade.

Whoever is up will ask the question "Who wants to top this trade". The first to answer "I will" enters into a trade agreement with him. The asker, sends a package first to the topper. Once received it is now his turn to "top that trade" by sending better than he received, either in like quality but more quantity. Or by sending better quality, usually in at least same quantity. The next day after answering the challenge, it is now your turn to ask "Who wants to top this trade"...and so on. And of course there is flyboy's great "sadistic Saturday" rule, where the question can be asked over and over again until the day is done.

One thing I have found while participating in the TTT thread,

DO YOUR BEST TO TOP THE TRADE WITH BETTER QUALITY STICKS AS OPPOSED TO QUANTITY -- YOUR PEERS WILL RESPECT YOU MUCH MORE,

top with quantity as a last resort.

............................................................A TRADE CALLED O C T T T.............................................................................

The basic rules..........OCTTT = Outta Control Top This Trade

Same general guidelines as the TTT but this will be for those folks who just can't control themselves and love to bomb BIG (and have the sticks to support their habit).

1) ANYTHING GOES!

2) 10 stick minimum

3) No dogrockets! (if you're not sure if your sticks are DR, ask)

4) Send your end in a timely manner - I recommend a couple of days from the time you made the commitment or received the package...but use your own discretion.(I for one need to improve!)

5) If #4 is a problem then at least let the other B/SOTL know that your end will be tardy.

Note :

"Warped is too nice a name to use for some of the individuals in this arena !! This is where the heavy hitters play !

.................................................................ITEM SPECIFIC TRADES...........................................................................

Post what you have and what you want in return or vice versa.

ISO - in search of

FT - for trade

For example:

FT 5 pack of PAM 64 Diplos looking for = value of ISOMs.

.....................................................................THE BOX PASS.........................................................................................

This is a great way to make new friends and an opportunity to smoke some different sticks

Generally a box pass consist of a host and 10 - 12 other members.

The host establishes the pass rules and gathers each prospective members shipping info.

Once any revisions have been made to members info, or rules the shipping order of the pass is laid out, usually this done geographically, sometimes allowing for hand offs.

The completed pass order and the pass rules are forwarded to each member.

The host then puts together a selection of cigars, usually 30 - 40, and ships them to the first person on the list and the box pass has begun.

Once received, the member removes and adds cigars from the box in accordance with pass rules established by the host.

The box goes from member to member until it finally gets back to the host.

Usually a host bag will be generated by one of the members, this bag is where members of the pass can add sticks for the host.

Here are some examples of box pass rules :

Newbies MUST have at least 1 trading reference from a current cbid member.

You must be at least semi-active on these forums. No lurkers allowed!

3 move minimium. You must take at least 3 gars from the box and replace them with at least 3 of equal or greater value.

No trading up. Translation: Do not put 2 $5 sticks in trade for 1 $10 stick!

You must post your puts and takes on the box pass thread

You are responsible for the contents of the box until it has been received by the next member in the shipping order. So insure the box when shipping !! See the shipping options section

..................................................................BIRTHDAY CLUBS..........................................................................................

Birthday clubs are usually established in Dec. / Jan.

The club consist, ideally, of 12 members

The originator of the club establishes the rules and gathers each members shipping info and birthdates. This info is then forwarded to each member

Each month you and the other members of the club send birthday packages to the member who has a birthday in that month

In your month all other members of the club will send birthday packages to you !!!

Here are some examples of birthday club rules :

You must have developed a positive trading rep on this board

You must be at least semi-active on these forums. No lurkers allowed!

Send a minimum of 5 cigars for each birthday, but if you want to send more to anyone, feel free to. In return, they will

probably send you more on your birthday.

Send your package as close to the members birthday as possible, at least in the proper month

...................................................................CONTEST / GAMES ....................................................................................

Periodicaly a BOTL / SOTL will put on a contest or game where the winner will receive free cigars.

The originator establishes and post the rules and winnings for these contest / games

..................................................................SHIPPING OPTIONS.......................................................................................

UPS, Fed Ex, USPS, etc works for most folks.

I prefer USPS. The great thing is, you don't have to go to the post office to ship.

You will need to create a free USPS account to do this, but trust me, with as many cigars as you will be shipping to other BOTL, this makes life much easier! USPS will also send you free shipping boxes, at your request.

Simply hop on USPS.gov go to ship a package, select the proper option and pay with your credit card. Then, just send it out with the mailman. Cost Delivery Confirmation # is included when shipping 2 - 3 day USPS priority. Insurance on packages is also available

............................................ LIST OF COMMONLY USED ACRONYMS..........................................................

898 varn = 898 Varnished

AF = Arturo Fuente

AFAIK - = As far as I know

AKA = Also know as

asc = alt.smokers.cigars (a USENET Newsgroup)

bb (or bbs) = bulletin board or forum

BBF = Bolivar Belicoso Fino

Big Smoke = cA's cigar events.

BLTTW = Be less trouble that way

Bol CG = Bolivar Coronas Gigantes

Boli CG = Bolivar Coronas Gigantes

BOTL/SOTL = Brother/Sister of the Leaf

BS = Hemingway Best Seller

BTL = Hemingway Between The Lines

cA = Cigar Afficianado

cammie = Cameroon

CF = Cigar Family

Connie = Consuegra (seconds to Punch, HdM, ERDM)

CS = Conneticut Shade Wrapper

CUL8R = See you later

CW = Cigar Weekly/CigarWise

D4 = Partagas D-4 (Robustos)

DC = Don Carlos, Double Corona, or Diamond Crown

EPI 1 = Hoyo de Monterrey Epicure No 1 (corona gorda)

EPI 2 = Hoyo de Monterrey Epicure No 2 (robusto

ERD M = El Rey Del Mundo

FAQ = Frequently Asked Question

FCOL = For Crying Out Loud

FFOX = Fuente Fuente Opus X

FNG = F***ing New Guy

FOAD = F*** off and Die

FOG = F***ing Old Guy

FUBAR = F***ed up beyond all recognition

FWIW = For what it's worth

FYA = For your amusement

FYI = For your information

HDM = Hoyo de Monterrey

Herf = A gathering of people enjoying cigars and the company of each other

HP = Herfer's Paradise

IBTL = Hemingway In Between the Lines

IHNDIWTFYATA = I Have No Damned Idea What The F*** You Are Talking About

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

IMNSHO = In my not so humble opinion

IMO = In my opinion

INWAP! = I'm Not Wearing Any Pants!

ISOM = Island South Of Miami

J/K = Just kidding

JL = Juan Lopez

JL S2 = Juan Lopez Seleccion No 2 (Robustos)

L = Laugh

L8R = Later

LGC = La Gloria Cubana

LL - = LaLuna

LL AF = LaLuna African Fuerte

LL LHB = LaLuna Little Havana Blend

LL MF = LaLuna Maduro Fuerte

LMAO = Laughing my a** off

LOL = Laughs Out Loud

LRE = La Rosa Especial

Lusi = Partagas Lusitanias

LVR = Hemingway Limited Vintage Release

M&B = Moore and Bode

Mac = Macanudo

Mad or Maddie = maduro

MMMM = Maria Mancini Magic Mountain

MMP = Hemingway Masterpiece Maduro

Monte = Montecristo

MP = Hemingway Masterpiece

Nat, Nattie = natural (cameroon, Conneticut Shade, etc.)

OF = Old Fashioned (seconds to Partagas, Cohiba and Macanudo)

OTT = Off The Truck

PAM = Padron Anniversario Maduro

PAN = Padron Anniversario Natural

PBP = Punch Black Prince

PERF X = FFOX Perfexcion X

PL = FFOX Petite Lancero

PP = Punch Punch

RAG = Ramon Allones Gigantes

RASCC = Ramon Allones Small Club Coronas

RASS = Ramon Allones Specially Selected

RC = Bolivar Royal Coronas

RdC = FFOX Reserva de Chateau

ROTFL = Rolling on the Floor Laughing (also ROFL)

ROTFLMAO = Roll on the floor laughing my a** off

ROTFLMAOPIMP = ROTFLMAO Peeing in My Pants

RyJ = Romeo & Julietta

RyJ CF = Romeo y Julieta Celestiales Finos (panatella)

RyJ POW = Romeo y Julieta Prince of Wales

Sams-a-dor = a cheap, but nice, humidor, purchased at Sam's Club

SD4 = Partagas Series D #4

SDB = Standard Dress Box

SIG = Hemingway Signature

SLB = Slide Lid Box (this is the slide box or mini-cab with the slide lid top)

SLR = Saint Louis Rey

SS = Hemingway Short Story

TFAMGD = Time for a Miller Genuine Draft

TIA = Thanks in Advance

TOP = A way bring attention to a msg thread without addding content

TTFN = Ta Ta for Now

TTYL = Talk to You Later or Type to You Later

UPP SW = H Uppman Sir Winston

UTS = Hemingway Untold Story

VR = Vega Robaina

VR DA = Vega Robaina Don Alejandros (prominente)

VSG = Ashton Virgin Sun Grown

WOA = Hemingway Work of Art

WTF = What the Foobar?

xXx = Opus X^3 (Power Ranger)

And send Steve S a cigar

PLEASE REMEMBER TO POST A REPLY AND TOP THIS FOR THE NEXT GUY OR GAL

baracuda
Sunday, January 23, 2005 1:39:00 PM
All caps for sketcha

and send Steve S a cigar

sketcha
Sunday, January 23, 2005 2:30:00 PM
Nice work, Cuda. You did put the SteveS thing at the bottom of the post already BTW.

Now let's keep this one topped and hopefully the others will go away.

sketcha
Monday, January 24, 2005 3:26:00 PM
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baracuda
Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:40:00 PM
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sketcha
Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:32:00 AM
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ASC
  • ASC
  • Aficionado
Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:32:00 AM
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Que
  • Que
  • Aficionado
Friday, January 28, 2005 1:05:00 AM
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rogfam1
Saturday, January 29, 2005 1:05:00 PM
Okay I am a newbie to this board....but I promise to ply nice
baracuda
Sunday, January 30, 2005 7:02:00 AM
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alaska_badger
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 8:58:00 PM
bumpity-bump^
rogfam1
Thursday, February 3, 2005 5:44:00 AM
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sketcha
Saturday, February 5, 2005 8:58:00 PM
Good boy, rogfam.
havanaone
Sunday, February 6, 2005 7:54:00 AM
Baracuda, I'm a newbie to the forum.I'll learn to follow your play. Why don't you contact me. Seems you have alot of info I could use & learn. My email is [email protected].

Thanks for the info!!

baracuda
Sunday, February 6, 2005 8:16:00 AM
havana,

There are a lotta guys here with more info than me.

This thread is a cut and paste of mostly their info and just a little I added.

At the top of this thread there are several Botl's usernames, do an all messages search of those guys usernames one at a time and you'll see what I mean.

Also : use different forms of the usernames, you'll get more results in your search.

ie : 1- SLIMBOLI 2-SLIM

1- BuckyB93 2-Bucky

email sent

myash07
Monday, February 7, 2005 8:35:00 PM
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sketcha
Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:55:00 PM
Page 6?

Slackers, man.

lukin
Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:58:00 AM
thought I would bump this and add some extra info...

From Waldo

"I know I will take some flack for this (but who cares? since I don't trade)

If anyone "phishes" you for a trade here, beware!!

This place is just like anywhere else on the internet when it comes to bottom feeders.

Lurk for a few months, get a feel for the "good" guys!!

If (h'mm someone pops up all of a sudden) looking for "newbies" you should run and damn fast too.

Until there is a ####back ####m here, you have been warned."

From The Deltas....

if you don't know the name.........just ask

if they e-mail you without posting----beware

if they have a po box----don't send

if they ask for the moon, for a rock in return---say no

(trades are based on the value of the cigar--but not the c-bid auction value--the cigar international value or a reputable company value)

and up we goooooooooo

cigarbidwidow
Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:35:00 AM
This was getting hard to find. Had to top it.
lukin
Friday, March 4, 2005 6:26:00 AM
how is anyone going to find this on page five????

up ya go!