This is a 5V Series A. Notice the change in color of the wrapper. Is this what happens when a wrapper is dyed? That or maybe it's normal and I've just never noticed it before.

any dye coming off onto your lips or fingers?

that is what a Padilla EE did for me. yuck.

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I don't know if it means they are dyed, but it is yet another reason I hate the 5V A series.

alot of maduros are dyed I think!

It didn't come off or anything. Just burned... oddly.

I have one. I'll light it up and see what happens...

I forget the name, but there was a cigar sold here that would leave your fingers and lips black from the dye. That was pretty bad.

5 Vegas Series 'A' is definitely not dyed. This cigar has a naturally fermented Costa Rican maduro wrapper. You'll notice this same thing happen with other brands like Gurkha Doble Maduro, which also contains a Costa Rican maduro wrapper.

Some lighter wrappers become darker near the ash as they burn. It's just a common occurrence.

mine does lose the darkness near the burn like that arifle...

Steve- his is lighter near the ash, not darker. Is it because it's drier near the burn???

iluvia - Indeed, I notice that. However, I was trying to say that lighter cigars sometimes turn darker toward the burn, just like this darker wrapper turns lighter.

The dyes used for color enhancement of wrappers are made from the stalks of the tobacco plant, so it's really just a tobacco juiced wrapper, BFD. So long as it doesn't come off on your fingers or hands who cares.

Just because some manufacturers use color enhancement of the wrappers for looks, doesn't mean that they are doing anything unnatural or cutting corners (such as in accelerated fermentation or maduro-matic ovens).

It's the mentality of wanting everything to look identical the belief that this somehow makes it a better cigar, that has created such a market for the color enhancement.

Some major manufacturers use bethunes of various natural ingredients for flavor/aroma enhancement (rum is a popular ingredient - past that, everything else in there is a closely guarded secret of each manufacturer) to touch up cigars, you know those nice shiny wrappers? Yeah... Now that you know this occurs, is it a big deal, like color enhancing? No different really.

You want cigars that have wrappers that aren't treated in any way? Smoke Cuban cigars. Their wrappers look like **** most of the time. Splotchy, veiny, spots, no two are the same color.

Much ado about nothing really.

RE #7

JR -

Black Pearls?

I don't care if it was dyed. I was just curious. Matter of fact I expect another box to show up at home today.

For the record, the Series 'A' is not enhanced in terms of color. What this picture shows is simply how the wrapper leaf burns. This wrapper leaf seems to do this frequently, regardless of which cigar it hugs.

And Coop is right regarding dying. Some manufacturers do it, and some also use a 'brine' as they call it to enhance the flavor. It's a practice taken from Cuba....and you'd probably be surprised to hear some of the folks that do it.

10. thanks:)

Black Pearl!!!

That's the one. Nasty experience. I vowed not to make that mistake again.

I'm kinda glad I lit this up now...nice for a lazy windy day at home

took a sick day to rest

and bake bread

RE #14

Thanks Steve, I didn't mean to imply that the 5 Vegas A's were enhanced, just that it's really not that big a deal in most cases.

Probably a lot less dyed/enhanced cigars out there than people think and a lot more bethuned or brined cigars than people realize.

"and a lot more bethuned or brined cigars than people realize."

Oh, indeed.

#11

"Just because some manufacturers use color enhancement of the wrappers for looks, doesn’t mean that they are doing anything unnatural or cutting corners (such as in accelerated fermentation or maduro-matic ovens). "

Contradiction right there.

"It’s the mentality of wanting everything to look identical the belief that this somehow makes it a better cigar, that has created such a market for the color enhancement. "

Consistency does not justify cheating.

"You want cigars that have wrappers that aren’t treated in any way? Smoke Cuban cigars. Their wrappers look like **** most of the time. Splotchy, veiny, spots, no two are the same color."

Contradict everything I have read about Cuban cigar making. According to what I read in books, Cuban wrappers are very smooth, very thin, and very elastic. Also, Cuban cigars are categorized to over 60 different shades prior to boxing and shipping.

Are you sure you were smoking Cubans?