BikerBob1961
Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:32:00 AM
my computer was acting up and kept freezing on me where I had to restart it over and over again. I would click on My Computer to access the drives and it would stop responding(even in safe mode) and the task bar and the icons on the desk would disappear and I would have to restart it but it would not restart nor shut down properly. BTW my Norton was expiring on 11-20 and I kept getting a warning to fix that. I tried to un-install it and I couldn't. Finally I went to their web site and found a program to un-install it and installed McAfee total care and now the computer is working just fine. I wonder if the Norton expiring messed up my computer?

Anyone else had problems with Norton?

donutboy2000
Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:28:00 PM
Norton is evil.
rfenst
Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:31:00 PM
Most every computer problem we were ever having went away when we got rid of Norton and McAffee. Avast
rfenst
Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:31:00 PM
Most every computer problem we were ever having went away when we got rid of Norton and McAffee. Avast
rfenst
Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:32:00 PM
^Avast is free. It works great and causes little to no problems.
Thunder.Gerbil
Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:33:00 PM
^

Like your all-too-frequent double postings?

Ooops...

MACS
Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:48:00 PM
LOL!

I fracking HATE norton.

I use trend micro and have no issues.*

*That TG can't solve with a phone call, usually

mkurt
Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:57:00 PM
edward norton is an evil obama promoter
plinytheelder
Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:34:00 PM
Bob, as donutboy posted... NORTON is some EVIL crap. Take it out of your system, but don't just try to "remove program" it, search for a removal and run that.
GreenWolf70
Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:45:00 PM
The real problem is Microsoft.
Grey
Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:04:00 PM
http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials  -- which is good, but not perfect in my opinion.

What ever you do, avoid "Antivirus 2009" or anything that's not recommended by either TG or me, or someone else that you trust completely with your computer. Technically, you shouldn't trust us either. I could be lying. 🙂

I'm not though...

...am I?

BikerBob1961
Monday, November 16, 2009 6:47:00 PM
Well it was working for awhile with McAfee then it started messing up again so no McAfee is gone too,POS. I saw Avast but it only covered a few items free so I went with microsoft and its working again,well for right now anyway. Now I am trying to either IE8 or IE7 SP2 installed.
tonyt722
Monday, November 16, 2009 6:53:00 PM
I have been running AVG and it works great.
pacman357
Monday, November 16, 2009 6:55:00 PM
You down with AVG? Yeah, you know me. Rated among the higher antivirus programs last I checked, and their basic setup is free, with free updates.

BTW, just to be sure, you might want to get a free temperature monitoring software program. First half of your issue sounded like it could be that. Doesn't hurt to monitor. Some folks overclock, others overclock for them, and some more compact units just don't leave enough air.

I'd monitor the temp inside just to be sure.

hank56
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:21:00 AM
Or another solution might be get a Mac, no real virus problems with their OS for the most part 😉

Sorry couldn't help myself stirring up that hornets nest. LOL

AustinTW
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:14:00 AM
What Pacman said, it may be you have hardware issues. McAfee installed for me fine, but then decided it wanted to run a full scan every day instead of every month. That entails a lot of hard drive reading. That may cause either heat issues, or you may be experiencing a hard drive that is slowly dying, which would explain the lockups even in safe mode and the intermittent health of your system (sometimes seems fine, then it locks up again).

If it is your hard drive, in about 98.2% of similar cases you have about two weeks left before it goes bye bye.

AustinTW
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:37:00 AM
BTW, if you want to check your hard drive, put it through some stress to see if it can finish.

Right-click on C: drive, select Properties, then Tools, and select the Check for Errors. I'm not sure about Vista or Windows 7, I still have XP, but this will initiate the CHKDSK the next time you restart your system, so this bypasses any system driver issues that may be causing the lockups (and also potential virus issues, unless you have a particularly nasty one).

If it is a failing hard drive you will likely start getting bad cluster error messages. The real test is whether or not your hard drive can finish the scan, if it doesn't and locks up you may want to start thinking about backing up your data. If it finishes fine, then its on to other issues.

BikerBob1961
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:57:00 AM
The computer and hard drive are about 1 year old. McAfee installed fine and it worked fine but just for awhile then it started messing up again, so I uninstalled it. On another issue I lost solitaire some how I have the saved games but can't play it now. I am going to try and reinstall them from the disk.
jpotts
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:37:00 AM
I hate Norton, but thus far they've been the best at blocking and elimination viruses from my system.

And yes, Norton can really f**k up your system. In fact, a sizable amount of "Windows" issues cited by users are attributable to Norton Antivirus.

teedubbya
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:49:00 AM
Apples get viruses too especially if you run windows and MS apps on them.