What the heck do/did you do with violent kids in your class? We're talking elementary school 4th graders in normal classrooms. My wife has a student who has anger management skills, throws chairs, hits, and endangers other students...other than kicking his ### what can you do except cause a big ####-storm by telling all the other parents who's kids are in that class and have them demand the kid be removed and make a big scene with the local news, haha!

^I should say "lack" of anger management skills, oops.

What does Admin say?

I can tell you what my mom did, although she's retired from teaching now.

Take the little **** aside, where no one can hear and no cameras or anything are running, describe something you wouldn't visit on al-Qaeda prisoners if he/she doesn't stop screwing around, and then leave the kid standing there with all the color drained from his/her face and deny, deny, deny if the kid talks later.

i do not teach kids that young...i hit my high school kids...yup, SV--school violence.

I had no anger man. issues in grade school, more class clow maybe. But goodness knows my ass was on the business end of many a paddle. Now these were mostly shop classes. Heck one teacher(wood shop) drilled holes in his for better speed. The long and the short is Thats whats missing today, step outa line get tuned up!!

Unfortunately we cannot count on parents these days to discipline on their own!!

If you touch the kid, the cops will take you away.

Send an email to your superior asking for advice on what to do. Get the response in writing. Print the email and take it home with you. Follow the advice to the word.

Unless he/she says "kill the child". In that case, I'd just bring a .22 and wing him.

Velcro is also an alternative, but I prefer gunplay.

You're welcome.

Video the kid in action.

Tell her to bring a video camera to class and start recording. Document everything in a dedicated log. Initiate and keep every communication with superiors sought for counsel. Take a break with sick day and let the sub deal with it.

The most effective way of handling it is to file a Human Resources complaint for being in a hostile work environment. The more she documents the issue, the more likely someone will listen. And if they don't, she has documentation for the lawsuit that happens when the little **** hurts her or someone else.

sedagives...

I take it that most of the kids in the class probably do not like this kid. That being said, remember the scene in the movie Full Metal Jacket when all the soldiers put a bar of soap wrapped up in the end of a towel....I think you know where I'm going with this. Good luck.

^Hey, that sounds like a pretty good idea.

As for what does the administration say, the kid did this in 3rd grade too and nothing has been done yet, so they're not too interested in doing anything about it apparently. Maybe he gets 10 strikes or something.

13 for 10

Send the kid to the house, let the parents deal with it.

Every time he pulls some sh*t, out he goes, for a week. You can't beat the kid but the parents sure can. Sooner or later, they'll get tired of his crap and deal with it.

As a teacher, they've taken all disciplinary options away, I see no other choice.

Remove the child's frontal lobe. Go in through the nose so there are no marks.

If she slips and damages too much, then you can have the child transferred to a "special ed" class.

Document the problems.

Use video if that's allowed.

And be certain to report it to the adminstration along with your recommendations (such as to remove the kid).

Schedule a mandatory meeting with the parents.

First alone (without the kid), then have one with the kid.

Third graders know right from wrong.

They understand how people get hurt.

Chances are the kid can't control it on his own, so the adults need to make informed decisions.

If another child gets hurt and nothing was done, they'll be pointing fingers at the teacher who did "nothing".

Take away his cigars !!

Jade shouldn't be in third grade

He should be in 4th by now !!

EBB

#11 SEDAGIVES??? YEE YEE YEE YEE (I'm choking you whilst saying that).

May just be in my top ten favorite all-time. Never get tired of watching that. In case you never saw me mention this, I caught an interview with Gene one day...he had to convince Mel to leave in the song-and-dance number. Mel thought it was too over the top. Yes, Mel. Gene talked him into leaving it in the movie.

if the Admin. has no plan or policies established to deal with behavioral problems, can't your wife ask the union what to do?

the sad thing is the kid is a kid and needs intervention and counseling while he is young, or sometimes just some good old fashioned positive and reinforcement and neg. consequences...now is the best time for him to get support services and learn appropriate ways to deal with frustration.....has your wife not mentioned the behavior to the parents?

Usually the teachers I see at those grade levels will discuss behavioral issues with the parents first.

my daughter's school has a behavior signal for each day

green...good, respectful, followed directions

yellow...needed repeated correcting

red...buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

indiv. kid changes his/her own pen/stamp color to yellow when he's "off the mark" so to speak

then can earn his way back to the green pen

but if he continues poor behavior or gets worse or is physically acting up.....he gets the red pen

kids (with the exception of physical outbursts in early grades--anything that could cause harm is red and stays red), can earn their way back from red by the end of the day

the kids get their pen and give it to the teacher at the end of the day to mark the book so the parent knows how the behavior was for the day...each week has a sheet with five spots for markers and parent signatures

if the kid gets a bunch of yellows or reds, the parents see the pattern...each parent has to sign the marker page each day

several reds and a meeting is called with the parents

not sure if this helps any or makes sense