delarob
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Thursday, December 3, 2009 7:20:00 AM
Ok, this is the latest one going around. The premise is that 11 - 13 muslims got on this plane and caused problems and the whole incident was shoved under the rug.

True or no? I can't find much to dispute the validity.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17508 

HockeyDad
Thursday, December 3, 2009 7:34:00 AM
Never trust Canadians or their media.
topper7788
Thursday, December 3, 2009 7:54:00 AM
After your link, I read a couple of other accounts... Funny I had not heard anything about this..

Why the heck they didn't arrest those jackasses is what I don't understand...

Man I would have been wild to get off that flight...

DrafterX
Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:11:00 AM
How come Jet didn't tell us about this..??
delarob
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Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:13:00 AM
I got one of those emails that had someone elses email blah blah... You know the one where you think scam immediately. So I look it up and it looks like there may actually be a grain of truth here.
teedubbya
Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:38:00 AM
jackconrad
Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:45:00 AM
Well, i'll be flying with them monday and the following sunday..
topper7788
Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:47:00 AM
re 6

That make more sense..........

kleick
Thursday, December 3, 2009 10:11:00 AM
Snopes is awesome. Best cross-ref for forwarded emails.
jetblasted
Friday, December 4, 2009 6:54:00 AM
jack ...

Will you be flying through Atlanta?

username @ msn

jetblasted
Friday, December 4, 2009 6:58:00 AM
X

i didn't hear anything about it. I sent the link to the reporter at the local pape. Who covers Air Tran & they're not posting anything it seems.

jpotts
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:28:00 AM
Snopes?

LOL!

teedubbya
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:41:00 AM
Snopes is the pawn of George Soros (or is it Phyllis Diller?) I get so confused
jpotts
Friday, December 4, 2009 8:18:00 AM
Soros IS Phyllis Diller.
teedubbya
Friday, December 4, 2009 8:19:00 AM
I thought he was ruth buzzy
jpotts
Friday, December 4, 2009 8:23:00 AM
No.

Ruth Buzzy is actually Janet Napolitano.

jackconrad
Friday, December 4, 2009 10:30:00 AM
Jet, no i have a non stop flight to FLA..
jetblasted
Friday, December 4, 2009 11:01:00 AM
kkthx
jackconrad
Friday, December 4, 2009 11:52:00 AM
Your welcome..
jetblasted
Saturday, December 5, 2009 7:00:00 AM
It's a little easier to understand why a man who claimed to have thwarted a potential terrorist attack on a plane has not answered repeated requests to tell his story.

He was not on the plane, according to AirTran Airways.

"After conducting additional research into this situation, we have verified, according to flight manifests (legally binding documents) that the individual that allegedly created a first-hand account of events on-board AirTran Airways Flight 297, a Theodore Petruna, was never actually on-board the flight," AirTran said in a statement, which the AJC was the first to obtain.

An e-mail from a Tedd Petruna, which he told the AJC via a Facebook message Friday was intended only for friends and family, made the rounds online this week after one of those friends apparently forwarded it to others. In a matter of days, Petruna's account appeared in chat rooms, blogs and conspiracy theorists' Web sites.

The AJC was forwarded the e-mail dozens of times this week, as readers saw Petruna's tale and noticed conflicting information between it and earlier news reports of the flight delay Nov. 17. Some readers simply asked the AJC to do further investigation into the matter.

But others who forwarded the message to the AJC added accusatory comments suggesting the paper was participating in a politically correct cover-up. The intriguing story made for intense fodder among bloggers.

Petruna's story appeared in a blog on the Web site for The Project 912, a group started by Fox television commentator Glenn Beck. A Canadian news site picked up the story. An airline columnist at The Dallas Morning News, Terry Maxon, made it the subject of his blog for the second time this week on Friday. And snopes.com, a Web site that sniffs out rumors to decipher between fact and fiction, followed the story.

In its continued investigation into the incident, the AJC made several attempts to speak to Petruna about the incident. He has declined throughout the week to respond to repeated e-mail and phone attempts by the AJC to talk to him.

Additionally, interviews between the AJC and people on the plane, airline officials and federal agencies did not corroborate his story of what occurred on the flight.

According to AirTran, shortly after 4:40 p.m. on Nov. 17, Flight 297 bound for Houston taxied toward the runway of Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. But before the Boeing 717 made it to the runway, the pilot made the decision to return the plane to the gate. A flight attendant had apparently asked a male passenger twice to put away a cell phone or camera, but the man had not done so. The flight attendant then took the device from the man.

At the gate, the passenger -- who didn't speak English -- and a companion were asked to leave the plane, which they did without incident, the airline reported.

When it was determined the problem was caused by a language barrier, AirTran and TSA officials allowed the man, and 12 others traveling with him to re-board, and the flight left for Houston a little more than two hours later. Later, officials said the entire incident was the result of a miscommunication.

Nancy Deveikis was seated in seat 29A aboard Flight 297, directly behind an unidentified man who she believes spoke Spanish. Deveikis said the man was looking at pictures on a camera, and did not understand a flight attendant's requests to turn the device off.

Petruna's account of the flight was drastically different. It was forwarded to others by a man named A. Gene Hackemack, who vouched for him as a former NASA colleague. Petruna claimed he witnessed a incident involving Middle Eastern passengers on the flight, and attempted to stop the incident from escalating.

"I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said ‘you will go sit down or you will be thrown from this plane,' " Petruna wrote. Continuing, Petruna said 11 men dressed in "full attire" speaking Arabic got on the plane together.

Hackemack, when reached by telephone earlier this week at his Texas home, stood by the story, and gave the AJC a home phone number for Petruna.

"Thank God for people like Tedd Petruna," wrote Hackemack in the e-mail he forwarded.

Keith Robinson didn't make it to the gate in time to board Flight 297 for its initial attempt to depart. Robinson, a Texas chaplain, said he watched as upset crew members and passengers poured back into the terminal after the incident on the plane.

"You could tell something was going," Robinson told the AJC. Robinson said a passenger getting off the plane asked him if intended to get on the plane and fly to Houston.

"I'm a chaplain, that's where I'm supposed to be," Robinson said he told the man.

Robinson, who did not respond to a voice message or an e-mail Friday evening, said the flight to Houston was a quiet one, giving him time to write down his account of what he had seen.

"The feeling that I have from what I observed is there was intentional intimidation," Robinson said. "It was almost an ethnic bullying situation."

Robinson recounted what he witnessed for reporters at the Fox television affiliate in Houston on Thursday. Petruna, however, told the station -- KHOU-TV- he could not appear in front of the camera.

Robinson told the AJC earlier this week he had not yet spoken to Petruna, but believed him to be telling the truth.

Friday afternoon, AirTran responded to Petruna's allegations in a point-by-point response to his e-mail, posted on the airline's internal Web site and made available to the media. The claims in Petruna's e-mail were largely disputed by the airline.

"There are no reports of any passenger standing up in a threatening manner," according to the AirTran statement. "At no time was there any physical altercation between passengers."

AirTran also said that none of the airline staff knew of any passenger's religious beliefs.

Although AirTran previously had declined to release the flight manifest, that changed Friday evening. In addition to discounting Petruna's story, the airline responded to the amount of attention it believed the circulated e-mail was gaining, said Christopher White, AirTran spokesman.

There was no way Petruna could have seen what he described on Flight 297, AirTran said in a statement. Petruna departed from Akron-Canton, Ohio, on AirTran Flight 205 on Nov. 17, officials said. He was supposed to connect to Flight 297 to head to Houston, but he missed his first flight out of Ohio. And therefore, he missed the connecting flight.

"Flight 297, the flight which Mr. Petruna allegedly wrote a first-hand account of, originally pushed back from its gate in Atlanta at 4:40 p.m. EST, a full 26 minutes before flight 205 arrived at the gate in Atlanta making this flight connection impossible," according to AirTran.

Neither Petruna nor Hackemack responded to requests from the AJC to speak to them Friday evening.