Wife's car had the back brakes making that noise... you know the one where the sensor tells you it's time to change them?

Um... she has 25k miles on it. No way near time, right?

Wrong. Back brakes needed changing. The BACK ones... the one's that wear down half as fast as the front ones.

Yeeaaahhhhh... seems Honda put smaller pucks and softer material on there, so they changed them under warranty. WTF is it with manufacturers putting **** brakes on cars nowadays? I had mine changed twice under warranty...

whats funny MACS is much like tires the better brakes tend to wear faster.

Better being defined as performance rather than utility.

Although I would guess a typical honda leans more towards utility than performance so go figure

Welcome to asbestos free brakes.

I have 122k plus miles on my Silverado factory brakes.

More go and less stop make them last longer.

Oh, I know. My car has performance brakes with the sport package, so it was expected. A friggin Honda Accord? Hello?

And the rear wearing out before the front? The service advisor told me it was a defect they are aware of (smaller pucks in the rear) and they are covering it, so it cost me nothing but a little inconvenience.

When the warranty is out and it is time for brakes, I'll go to Goodyear and buy the lifetime brake deal. I did it with another car and it saved me a bundle. They are betting you won't keep the car more than 5 years... BZZZZZZZT... wrong!

It's a lot easier to remove the noise making tabs than it is to change the brakes out.

My S-10 has had four sets of Pads up front and still has the Factory shoes in the back after 120K miles

Manufacturers have discovered that using less material on the rear brakes saves $$$. You'll see this more and more on rear brakes of smaller non-performance cars and trucks. Since about 2006 or thereabouts. Does anyone own a Chevy Colorado or GMC Canyon with rear drums? Check out the rear brake shoe material depth. They look wore out right from the box.

Drums and rotors are a lot thinner too.. I remember back "in the old days" you could "turn" them 2-3 times.. now once if your lucky.. they always warp...

cayman

2000 Chevy Silverado 137,000 Miles on it and just changed out the factory brakes and rotors the whole way around at 130,000 miles. It was kinda pricey for all of that at one time but if these last even half as long as the factory ones that's still pretty good.

eleven!

Yeah, I got a good bit out of my old Nissan truck brakes, too.

I had an old chevy corsica that got new brake every 6 months. I thought that a caliper was sticking so I replaced both of them and it still did the same thing. I never figured out why it did that so I just bought the lifetime garunteed pads and changed them out as needed.

Guys, C'MON. Get with it will you...

If MACS had bought a Toyota, the issue of brake wear wouldn't come up... They don't work... Ba Dum Bummm.

thank you, i'll be in the area all night.

Ooooohhhhhhhh... that's gonna leave a mark.

A skidmark.

Speaking of Brakes,

My wife's car needed front pads and it was 1/3 of the price at the dealership as opposed to Firestone.

I was shocked..

wheel,

^They were probably better quality also. Firestone and places like it usually sell you the cheaper rotors - at a higher price. When I got brakes done on my Jeep the indepentant shpo gave me a choice of cheaper rotors or AC Delco rotors. Since the rotors warp easily on that vehicle I picked the AC Delco's, then traded it a few months later.

Mercedes had the ability to machine to rotors and set the sensors without replacing the rotors.

FireStone had to buy New rotors from Mercedes at $190 each plus pads and labor.They wanted like $700 for a front brake job.The car only has 25k miles.

Mercedes charged me $252.

and washed and Vac the car,

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Dealers and independants will sometimes machine rotors if there's enough thickness left. They make a lot of them so thin to begin with that a lot of times there isn't enough thickness left to machine without warping ocurring later on. Mercedes probably uses thicker rotors to begin with. I have never had a chain resurface rotors. They are alway too thin and must be replaced, unless of course they're under warranty for some reason. Then it's OK.

If rotors are not machined on the car it will not last very long. You should never replace brakes without machining the rotors.. I used to sell the repair equipment to the dealers and train them on how to use it.