http://factcheck.org/2010/02/still-on-the-table/ 

Besides the House & Senate bills, there are Republican proposals; these contain the ideas to be discussed between the WH and Congress.

I especially like the component of the Ryan bill which auto-enrolls patients at emergency rooms, to keep taxpayers from picking up the bill. There are other ideas, some of which I like, some of which I hate, in each plan.

Obviously, we all disagree on the overall plans, but I'm betting we may see a surprising amount of agreement among us as to which features we can agree on.

If I'm wrong about that, no matter, but the important thing is to contact your elected officials and let them know which individual components --NOT the overall bills--you like and hate.

Alternatively, we can just discuss how hot those hard, spandex-clad asses look while bouncing down the women's skeleton track.

Obummer ready to throw away ANOTHER trillion $ on his last ditch effort....

Sheesh

Taking the parts you like and rejecting the parts you don't will not work financially. Insurance Co. not being able to reject anybody, exclude prexisting conditions, not triple your rate etc is a good goal. Mandatory insurance and heavy fines for not complying is bad and infringes on your personal freedom, choices, blah blah blah. Unfortunately you can't have both. Bringing everybody in and spreading out the risks over the entire population is what allows you to cover everybody. If you had the first part without the mandatory insurance clause you would just wait until you get sick, go buy your $4K/year policy then let it pay out all your bills. Works for the individual, but not for the system.

Ev'rywhere I hear the sound of marching, charging feet, boy

'Cause summer's here and the time is right for fighting in the street, boy

But what can a poor boy do

Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band

'Cause in sleepy London town

There's just no place for a street fighting man

No

Hey! Think the time is right for a palace revolution

'Cause where I live the game to play is compromise solution

Well, then what can a poor boy do

Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band

'Cause in sleepy London town

There's just no place for a street fighting man

No

Hey! Said my name is called disturbance

I'll shout and scream, I'll kill the king, I'll rail at all his servants

Well, what can a poor boy do

Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band

'Cause in sleepy London town

There's just no place for a street fighting man

No

wheel,

aaaaaahhh socialism. sweet sweet socialism.

that'll fix this mess that socialism got us into.

yah, that's the ticket!

I see a clinic full of cynics

Who want to twist the peoples' wrist

They're watching every move we make

We're all included on the list

The lunatics have taken over the asylum

The lunatics have taken over the asylum

No nuclear the cowboy told us

And who am i to disagree

'Cos when the madman flips the switch

The nuclear will go for me

The lunatics have taken over the asylum

The lunatics have taken over the asylum

I've seen the faces of starvation

But i just can not see the points

'Cos there's so much food here today

That no one wants to take away

The lunatics have taken over the asylum

The lunatics have taken over the asylum

The lunatics have taken over the asylum - take away my right to choose

The lunatics have taken over the asylum - take away my point of view

The lunatics have taken over the asylum

The lunatics have taken over the asylum - take away my dignity,

Take these things away from me

The lunatics have taken over the asylum

The lunatics have taken over the asylum - take away my family,

Take away the right to speak

The lunatics have taken over the asylum take away my point of view,

Take away my right to choose

(without satellite radio, I'd never know this song existed)

With the exception of #3, this thread contains exactly the amount of thoughtful and reasoned discussion of the OP that one would expect on this forum - zero.

Some very clever fringe propaganda, though!!

It's tradition that maybe the first couple replies be serious, then the next few get the nonsense out of the way, and then others chime in with other serious replies, and so on and so forth. It's the ebb and flow of a thread. Sorry if we were unable to solve all of the issues within the first few replies. Feel free to chime in with your "thoughtful" and "reasoned" reply as you see fit. Keep in mind that many may not care to give a "thoughful" reply as it only leads to bitterness and flaming, when all you can really do is laugh at the idiots in politics. Otherwise, we'll all just go insane.

^ #8

Very true, man.

The only discussion I expected was about Olympic skeleton ladies' asses.

Please see to it.

necrophilia...no thanks.

Free health care for all!

IT IS A HUMAN RIGHT!!!!