8trackdisco
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 4:01:00 PM
After you meet the dollar for dollar match of the employer's 401k, do you keep feeding the 401k or hold off and put it in a Roth?
Mattie B
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 4:05:00 PM
I go with a Roth. But thats me.
blackfoot11
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 4:09:00 PM
where's donuthole? he know about this ****..........uh, stuff...........
Mattie B
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 4:12:00 PM
Also.......

David Lee ROTH was much better than Sammy Hagar!!!!!!!

bowling4puros
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 4:24:00 PM
Put it in the ROTH

If you need the money for an emercency, you can actually get to it, as opposed to getting penalized on a early w/d from the 401k...if your plan even has that option.....plus, you can invest in stocks that you want instead of being restricted to mutual funds that the 401k plan has picked out for you

just my .02, though

8trackdisco
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 4:25:00 PM
Two cents is my company match.
wheelrite
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 4:25:00 PM
Mattie I like DLR and Sammy with Van Halen...

Sammy has a better voice...

wheel,

bowling4puros
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 4:27:00 PM
6^

Sounds about right...mine has been shut off since Fabruary 09......i think we're getting it back in October, though

jackconrad
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 5:03:00 PM
I max The Roth.
gringococolo
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 5:17:00 PM
1. Emergency fund (6 mo living expenses in cash)

2. Employers match 401k

3. Roth Ira max contribution (5k for you, 5k spouse)

4. Remaining available funds in 401k

rfenst
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 6:09:00 PM
Hire a financial planner who only gives advice, not one who sells anything. Any good CPA will be able to refer you to one or more.
rfenst
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 6:11:00 PM
10. Author: gringococolo

Where, in your opinion, do adequate disability and life insurance fit in?

donutboy2000
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 6:41:00 PM
Usually employers offer a very limited number of investment choices. Those limited choices often have high expense ratios, 12b1 fees, front loads, etc.

If you are in that situation and you do not exceed the Roth income limits, go with the Roth. Look at vanguard and Fidelity to start. Pick a nice index fund and forget about it.

pdxstogieman
Tuesday, March 9, 2010 8:59:00 PM
^ Janus Balanced (JABAX) has done well for me through thick and thin over the last 10 years, appreciating almost 6% annually, through 3 major economic meltdowns. SP500 Index Funds on the other hand have lost about 10% in value over the same 10 years.

Index funds and buy and hold strategy may be ok if you have a long time horizon, however, in mutual funds whether actively managed, or passive indexes are all about when you get on the merry go round and when you get off. If you don't have the ability or inclination to watch your mutual fund investments they can devalue just as rapidly as individual stocks and as an individual investor, you DO NOT have access to the tools available to professional and institutional investors to be able to time the market.

Information flows way to fast in the digital age and there are too many big sharks moving markets up and down in order to make a buck in the short term to allow laissez faire buy and hold investing to be the "safe haven" it once was thought to be.

If you are putting your savings in equities, even diversified mutual funds, you had better be prepared to exercise a strategy of semi active management, less frenetic than day trading but more attentive than "buy, hold, and lose big when the market turns down".

HockeyDad
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:53:00 AM
Mutual funds are the natural prey for hedge funds.
gringococolo
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:04:00 AM
Robert,

Complicated question (depending on existing savings, wifes wages, etc...), but generally between #3 and 4.

teedubbya
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:07:00 AM
roth

if for no other reason then to not have all your eggs in one bucket not to mention the different tax benefits

HockeyDad
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:09:00 AM
My concern with the Roth IRA is one day the government will strip away its tax advantages. At least with a 401K, you know you're going to be taxed on withdrawals.

If I knew they would never tax Roth IRA withdrawals and under the assumption the tax rates must go up to keep the nation viable, the Roth IRA would be great.

Another thing people need to look at is debt in combination with investments. The best investment likely is to pay off high interest debt.

teedubbya
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:15:00 AM
no doubt there HD. I had to convince my wife of that.... she would be willing to pay 20% on a credit card as long as she is earning 9% on the markets.

there are some valid arguments as to cash flow but removing that from the equation.... not so much

teedubbya
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:16:00 AM
as for tax implicatoins of Roth... not to worry. That would be like worrying about VH breaking up.