RICKAMAVEN
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 2:48:00 PM
Arizona lawmakers on Tuesday passed one of the toughest pieces of immigration-enforcement legislation in the country, which would make it a violation of state law to be in the U.S. without proper documentation.

It would also grant police the power to stop and verify the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being illegal.

i have no problem, does anyone?

http://tinyurl.com/y6zdbbj 

or

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304604204575182721466632104.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsForth 

zapgr
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 2:54:00 PM
I'm a white guy so profiling doesn't bother me but there is a very large group of hispanic Americans that could be upset over racial profiling. **** I was gonna move to AZ ... I am gonna wait till the dust settles now. So it does affect me damn I hate being collateral damge.
rfenst
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:09:00 PM
If "suspect" = reasonable suspision = probable cause, then it's fine with me! Otherwise it is not.

Merely appearing to be of a particular heritage or culture would be insufficent to me.

grmcooper
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:15:00 PM
I got taken into a concrete cell today and searched coming out of Canada. Freaked me the hell out. Thought I was going to jail. Searched the truck too. Opened everything in the truck then left it a mess. Bastids.
lluvia
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:19:00 PM
Wow cooper!
andytv
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:19:00 PM
I don't like ANY law that means you can be accosted and questioned by police for no reason other than their suspicion.
andytv
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:20:00 PM
#4.......how many times did they apologize afterwards?
grmcooper
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:24:00 PM
They didn't Andy. They said bye! I Have to go through Thursday night again so we will see.

For real they never said why they took my passport then took me in the little room. This was over an hour and a half.

knokmdwn
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:30:00 PM
They were probably looking for the NINE pounds of grass you stuffed up yur azz.

;^)

barryneedleman
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:52:00 PM
I have a latina wife and my son looks hispanic as well. If they are "profiled" and stopped when in AZ, then I have a problem with it.
edsbar60
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:58:00 PM
^Ideally, they have to have a reason to suspect you are an illegal alien before they stop you.
rfenst
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:05:00 PM
I by "suspect" you mean probable cause, I agree. We are talking about the Fourth Amendment here, which in my opinion ranks way up there with the First Amendment.
andytv
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:15:00 PM
Some reasons to "suspect" people of being illegal aliens:

1) Loud music in Spanish...whistles & bullhorns.

2) The wearing of "A-shirts" or "wife beaters".

3) Mowing grass

rfenst
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:26:00 PM
Holy ****!

You mean my very nice Mexican next-door neighbors, who are the hardest working family I have ever had the pleasure of knowing, are now suspect of being illegal aliens and could be stopped and held, without the freedom to leave at will, until whoever stops them is convinced they are not illegals?

Come to think of it, that and their three or four Mercedes, their Range/Land Rover and their son's Lamborghini can only possibly mean one thing: they are drug dealers!

pacman357
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:26:00 PM
Seems to me that Arizona has tried to regulate immigration before, and the courts shot it down as being the sole province of the federal government.
rfenst
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:38:00 PM
The issue is one of federalism- plain and simple.
pacman357
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:04:00 PM
#10 I would think a quick flash of ID that says "Needleman" as a last name would end the inquiry in short order.
big chief
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:55:00 PM
perhaps strangely, I have no opposition to profiling.

I actually support it.

If it violates anybody's 'constitutional' right then tough ****--many of those rights have been trampled over the last 30 years.

What makes this one so special?

What is the big deal?

big chief
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:02:00 PM
I mean, if the news/stats say: 'A bunch of Mexicans are crossing the border illegally' does that mean that we should be including folk who appear to be Germans, Thais, and Canadians in our list of suspects?
donutboy2000
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:12:00 PM
People cannot be illegal!