Okay, so I'm hypothetically looking at this business plan. As I see the flow charting of it, the gun gets dropped at the scene. This seems sloppy and provides law enforcement with the final "M" in MOM.

Is this some Sopranos/Godfather legend wannabee Hollywood glam bull****?

Why leave the gun at the scene? I know you shouldn't use the gun again due to the ballistics match if you HAD to do a second job.

Help?

Thanks.

Easiest thing to do is toss them in a farm pond. The beds are soft, murky and will swallow up just about anything that would accidentally fall in them. Divers have a very rough time in that stuff too, kinda like quicksand.

Agree with #2. I've always preferred to throw them out into a lake or farm pond.

Leave as little behind as possible.

A real pro would have disassembled it and fed each piece to different cows.

Hey, I know better than most on what cows can and cannot do. They try not to eat metal. Most farmers force a magnet down their through to stop metal from passing metal through their systems.

Probably more than you wanted to know.

Nevermind.

Actually, leaving the gun at the scene ensures the shooter is not caught with it. Not a terrible plan.

A professional would have at least 3 exit plans for not getting caught.

If you want to be a professional and get your name around the underworld, you have to have a gimmick.

Like leave a cheese curd at the scene of the crime.

AH HA! LOU IS THE CHEESE CURD KILLER! I'm calling Crime Stoppers.

BUSTED!!

It's a mob thing. I'm always amazed that, sitting next to the Puget Sound, which is quite large, and very deep in places, with all kinds of boats, ferries, bridges, etc., that you just never hear of anyone allegedly dumping a murder weapon in the water around here. We also have plenty of lakes and other such handy places, yet time after time, the cops come up with a murder weapon.

My favorite was years ago, in the county where I used to work. A guy was alleged to have committed a murder with an axe. You'd think, shouldn't be too hard to get rid of. Hell, you can even burn the handle, just drop the head over the side during a $4 ferry ride, no one would think anything about it.

No, this genius took the axe back to the hardware store. For a refund. He wiped it down, cleaned it as best he could, and returned the friggin' murder weapon for something like a $10-15 refund.

At least they couldn't accuse him of being wasteful, I suppose. I doubt they'd let him take the axe into prison to serve his time.

killing is bad..

Farm pond? Where to you fuggers live? Aint no farm ponds near me. The point of dropping the weapon is so they cannot connect it back to you. Assuming the gun came from the street and has no serial numer and you left no prints its useless to the investigation.

^ Listen to him..

He's Italian or Iranian,whatever they look the same..

wheel,

You leave the gun. You take the Cannolis.

Ain'tchoo never watched The Godfather?

Another thing. Use a revolver. No shell casings to have to worry about. People worry about wiping their prints off the gun but forget that they are all over the shell casings.

And whatever you do... do NOT keep the box of ammo, either. Use what you need and get rid of the rest.

Hell, borrow 6 rds from someone at the range!

Revolver makes sense if you do not intend to leave the gun at the scene. The new Judge is interesting, because if you use the shotgun rounds for it like buck shot, #4, and #6 shot (if vic is closer than 5 feet), there is nothing to trace back to that gun. If you really want to screw with the CSI bunch, try rock salt at a foot or two. It will kill but the rock salt will dissolve in the wounds. More of a problem is powder residue from close range work that is, thanks to terrorism, easily detected and the necessary equipment is readily available at most local police departments.

Personally, I like contact poisons for this kind of work. They can easily be made from common household ingredients and in most cases the vic never realizes he was hit with the killing touch (thus making ID impossible, if he survives, or there are witnesses). The slower acting the poison the better, giving the assassin time to escape before initial symptoms begin. Then there are a whole group of poisons that mimic natural medical conditions, like stroke, or heart attack and allow the assassin even more time to escape undetected.

Of course this is all hypothetical, I would hate to have AndyTV on my trail.

Gun / casings are wiped down - no weapon on the person = Plausible deniability and a good defense.

Spray with roundup. It'll take a week or so, but effective for pesty problem. Death by herbicide.