davey
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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:13:00 AM
Truly I consider myself one who can reach others. One who can motivate and encourage without being weak or passive, but...

for the life of me I am having such a tough time making my managers better leaders. I cannot change mens’ hearts, so.. WTF?? Do I let everyone go?

DrafterX
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:41:00 AM
need me to smack them around a little bit..??
JohnE1000
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:44:00 AM
One can help others be better people, but cannot make others better people.
DrafterX
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:45:00 AM
^ that's gay....
JohnE1000
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:49:00 AM
^ For that, I am not helping you!
DrafterX
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:50:00 AM
damn...
pgje51
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:52:00 AM
why f'k with perfection?
TMCTLT
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:55:00 AM
Davey, maybe you should resign and let madness rule the day.......it would fit right in with everything else.
SHOE
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:05:00 AM
davey, if you are how you describe yourself, that's a very effective management style. Encouraging without being weak or taken advantage of is delicate balance. My Director and Manager are smart, demanding, and always have a game plan to follow. They are light-hearted when the time is right, but will put the hammer down if the game plan is not followed. If you set a high standard, lead by example, you are fair, you encourage, and reward high performance on a consistant basis and you still have trouble with your managers - it sounds to me like YOU need to put the hammer down or make changes. And they need to know that. Fear is a great motivator.
Thunder.Gerbil
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:10:00 AM
Call ScottHar. See if you can pitch it as new reality show.
Big_Bear
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:23:00 AM
I conduct Leadership / Management / Supervisor training.

There are no easy answers.

[inspite of what _______________ said (fill in the blank with your favorite author/title)]

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DrafterX
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:25:00 AM
^ Ram..??
snowwolf777
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:30:00 AM
Get them all in to work one hour early every day and put them on the CE workout program.
bloody spaniard
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:31:00 AM
Too tired to impart any substantive, management advice this morning, Davey, except to reiterate some of what Shoe mentioned, lead by example, be fair, be clear in explaining objectives/goals, show compassion without being a patsy, and by all means hold folks accountable.
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:39:00 AM
You can not "make" managers better leaders. They have to have the desire to learn, accept criticism as constructive, and acknowledge their own limitations which calls for dependence on their subordinates to step up in certain situations.

Are you doing too much for them instead of letting them fail or succeed on their own?

c3s

J.Redleg
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:42:00 AM
Shoe and the Spaniard are on it.

Gimmicks and incentives are short term. Fairness and examples are not.

Stinkdyr
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46:00 AM
Lead by example, incentive, and positive acknowledgment.
Thunder.Gerbil
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:53:00 AM
^

If that doesn't work, try landmines.

DrafterX
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:56:00 AM
feed them hemp...
simmons_j_m
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:58:00 AM
or layoffs... always gets lower employees' attentions.