...about what Mike Shanahan is doing to Albert Haynesworth?

For those of you not up to speed... he has been making him run "conditioning drills" to see how "in condition" he is, and until he passes the drill... he has to practice with the scrubs.

I believe the "test" is to run 100 yds 3 times with little rest in between in a certain time.

Is Haines still being paid?

Unless he has a disability (other than sloth and stupidity) and he can't do his job, he shouldn't get paid.

"Few men in the NFL can carry a grudge like Shanahan, who harbors resentment behind a forced smile. Valued assistants and longtime colleagues tell of their relationships with the coach in hushed whispers. Some have begged not to be interviewed. They value the coach's knowledge, admire his obsession for detail. But they also fear him. Even long after they have stopped working with him their words quiver when his name is raised. Some say they fear they might say the wrong thing. They don't want to cross him."

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feel like all the details aren't quite out there. have read some bull**** like

-haynesworth pissed that they're moving to 3-4

-that the redskins promised that they wouldnt play in a 3-4 for his benefit.

-haynesworth isnt going to play for them like 2 days after he got something like $30M guaranteed bonus

-haynesworth is now happy, doesnt mind playing 3-4

-this shanahan business of conditioning drills

youd think they could all be professional and take care of business behind closed doors instead airing out the dirty laundry.

you know, professional like the oakland raiders (snicker).

Tomlin did the same sort of thing with Casey Hampton in training camp before the last super bowl season.

Haynesworth is a fat slob and the Redskins will continue to suck.

The boss has to establish himsellf as the In Command person or else he has no chance to succeed, But with the owner there he has no chance to succeed anyway..

He'll be gone in less than 2 years..

Despite all the BS... if you get paid the $ he is being paid, you need to show that you deserve it!

End of arguement!

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On the one hand, I say millionaires playing a game shouldn't be babied, and I have no sympathy for him.

Then again, I've been doing some serious maintenance on my saltwater tank for the last couple of hours (it really got filthy in the last 3 weeks), and my back, knees, legs, and...well, pretty much everything is aching like a mofo.

So...oh hell, he's getting paid a ton of money and I'm not. Work him to near death.

NEIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I say it falls into the "you reap what you sow" category.

He cried and whined about going to a 3-4 defense, then didn't show up to the team conditioning activities and he's getting paid millions.

Had he kept his trap shut and shown up to the team activities, he wouldn't be in this predicament.

i read it had more to do with the not showing up than the open mouth...but i read that here and japan, and wth do they know?

i kinda like it when i read it. if he does not get caught up, better for Dallas.

#8...NOBODY is worth the money he's getting paid!

Tom Brady doesn't even get that kid of money and he's a QB!

Typical dumbass Snyder move.

As Andy mentioned, this is far from the first time a player has been considered 'inactive' until he passes the conditioning test. The only difference is, this one has been made very public, as Haynesworth's contract has been controversial from day one.

The fact remains, any player - regardless of how much they are being paid - that is not suffering or coming off from an injury, should come to camp in shape and ready to pass the test. From what I've been hearing, the test should be simple for all professionals.

This is a humbling moment. A chance for Haynesworth to swallow his pride and realize he is not bigger than the team he plays for. He is another piece of the puzzle that must work within the team's culture for the team as a whole to be successful.

That said, Haynesworth was never in great shape, ever. If you watch his Pro Bowl seasons, the majority of his dominating plays took place in the beginning of games, when he was fresher and had his legs under him. He is a player that needs to be managed....sitting out many plays to go in and make one statement.

That said, I agree with what is taking place and how it is going down. I think it needs to be public. And, it's much better to hear than Brett Favre talk - even though I am a huge Favre fan.

^Not as huge as yo momma.

#14 Yeah, but this is professional sports. It may take a season, but if he pouts long enough, loafs enough, etc., they'll trade or cut him, and he'll eventually get his way...more or less.

I got no problem with making an exampled outta him but I think it is becoming a distraction to the Skins. The man is in camp. He signed the check. Put him in the scheme YOU want him in and see how he performs. He will either perform or he won't. If not, bury him on your depth chart and tell Daniel Snyder to keep his nose outta it from now. I could give a **** about Albert Haynesworth...I just think it's time to move past it.

btw MACS.....the test is to run a 300 hundred yard shuttle in increments of 25 yards. That's down 25 yards, touch the ground, and back. Down 50 yards, touch the ground and back, etc., all the way down the field. It has to be done in 70 seconds or less.....TWICE. With a 2.5 minute break between times. It's actually pretty brutal and could easily break down a player the size of Haynesworth. I think Shanny is on dangerous ground here. If Haynesworth gets hurt doing this...I think he may have a case against Shanny and Skins about deliberately hurting him.

Just once I'd like to see a time just trash someone like this in public. It could be done without really looking like an attempt to trash him, too.

"When we signed him, we thought he was a talented, multi-faceted player, with a tremendous skill set that we could showcase in the most popular professional sport league in the country. It seems like such a shame that a player who has performed at a high level in the past would doubt his own abilities to adapt and even question his own skill to the point where he is unwilling to give the new defensive scheme a try. It never occured to us that this player would develop such a crisis of confidence in a type of defensive scheme that has been successfully employed in this league for decades. If he needs counseling, we are willing to help him find a qualified professional to help him overcome this debilitating doubt in himself."

#16...Can't trade a guy with a contract like his.

He's not that great, he's only damaging the "brand" by being out of shape and not endearing himself to the fans of his team or teammates.

No, Snyder screwed up again. Over paying far more than what gets delivered. Just look at what he's STILL paying coaches that aren't even there!