00camper
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:05:00 AM
I think it was HockeyDad that said something about Wal-Mart arriving in small towns to drive out mom-and-pop businesses and enslave the local workers. (If I'm wrong about the author or its sentiments, then please correct me.) Still, others have posted similar feelings about Wal-Mart. This isn't an attempt to bait anybody or start something. Personally I like Wal-Mart, but I live in the middle of nowhere, my nearest neighbor is more almost a half mile away.

What's your perspective on Wal-Mart?

bassdude
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:07:00 AM
My wife's favorite store. They built a new super center in a town close to me. Within 1 year two grocery stores went out of business.

We shop there but I hated to see the other 2 stores close.

ryantp
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:10:00 AM
I despise the place.

Plain and simple.

00camper
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:13:00 AM
Ryan,

Why do you despise the place? Again, not trying to start something, just curious about why.

Country
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:22:00 AM
I worked there, It's the closest I've ever been to being a "slave" as you call it. I've never seen an opperation of deceit run so well. They use people there and mask it behind there "good morals". I don't know how wal-mart goes without being sued by every employee except to believe it's because they don't pay them enough to get a lawyer. My wife and I started working there when we first moved down here to pay the bills until we could find real jobs. My paychecks were the same every two weeks... 317 dollars for 80 hours of labor unloading trucks. That hardley payed for the gas getting to work much less the bills that we have, that's why we had to get rid of our internet among other things... $317.00!!!!
EI
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Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:32:00 AM
Wal-mart should not be a career choice. It is a starting point into the workforce or a supplemental second job.Anyone who expects a living wage from Wal-mart is fooling themselves and not living up to their potential.

I worked for minimum wage at a grocery store during and just out of high school. I busted my butt harder there then any other job I have had since (stocking, bagging, warehouse, loading dock sometimes 60 to 70 hrs a week). I did not consider my employment there a career choice. It was a JOB and vaulable experience for later in life while working at my career choice.

Plus they had the hottest check out girls in town

ruggysgirl
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:34:00 AM
Yeah, but they also allow a lot of folks to buy things they could not usually afford because of their enormous buying power. Keeps prices down.

Heather

Country
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:47:00 AM
I'll tell you why there prices are low, because they pay their employees $5.20 an hour and will fire you if you go over 40 hours in one week.

I am aware that it is not a career but at the same when people work for you, you need to take care of them. They are not fair or equal. My wife and I started at the same time, got hired the same day buy the same manager doing the same job... I got hired at $5.20 an hour and my wife got hired at $6.00 an hour.

Unless you have worked for them than you don't know what the treatment is like, but I garuntee you talk to someone who has worked there and they will have a different mindset about the great empire of Wal-mart.

ruggysgirl
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:52:00 AM
Good point. I don't know anyone personally who works there. All I know is that many of the same people have been at the one in my hometown for at least the past two years, which was when I started (grudgingly) shopping at Wal-Mart. If you have the inside scoop then I will take you at your word. I wonder how they compair to the other discount chain like Target and KMart.

Heather

StogeeBoy
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:52:00 AM
Don't really buy anything from walmart, or go to walmart. I personally believe that it's corporate slavery. I do logisitcs and one of my clients happens to be walmart(bunch of cheap bastiges), I'll tell you this, Low wage pay isn't the only reason why their prices are soo low.

John

rophoto
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:02:00 AM
What I find totally despicable is how they (Walmart) move into these small towns and FORCE people to work for them.

Seriously though, when Walmart hires you do they not tell you how much they are going to pay you? How is this unfair? They hire you at a rate of pay and then pay you that after you complete the work.

We've probably all have had jobs were we felt we were not getting paid what we were worth. Solution.... move on. Walmart should be looked at as a springboard at best. If your answer is "this is the only job I could find" or "this is all I'm qualified to do" then you are getting paid what you are worth.

Country
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:09:00 AM
I can see you've never worked for the subject at hand. It's not only that they are monitarily corrupt. It's how they treat there employees. I can't see how it is possible that the employees in the commercial's are anything but acters.

One day it was 10:00 at night my shift was done, I went to clock out and the supervisor was at the clockout box. He said "Nobody's leaving, we still have more work to be done. I thought to myself, I don't like someone telling me I can't leave somewhere when I've finished my shift but hey I could use the extra $$$. The next day at work that same supervisor came to me 4 hours before my shift was over and informed me that I had been clocked out and I had to go home.

Homebrew
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:28:00 AM
I know several people who work for Walmart.

Yep Country summed the up about right.

Having friends in manufacturing, I also know a bit about their procurement practices. Shady at best.

They expect immediate delivery of your product, and if you are lucky, you may get paid, for the product, within 6 months, but I have seen them take up to a year, to pay for products that many times they have already sold. More like a consignment, than a sale.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

P.S. Don't you wish you could get the long term no interest loan, of sorts, they get from their suppliers???

ddandb
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:31:00 AM
I never worked for Walmart and don't shop there so I relly don't know anything about the store except what I read. And a while back I did read about this lawsuite.

Lieff Cabraser and co-counsel represent separate classes of hourly wage earners at Wal-Mart in the States of Washington and New York who allegedly have been forced to work "off-the-clock" (without pay). The plaintiffs are current and former Wal-Mart employees who allege that Wal-Mart has violated state wage and hour laws.

Wal-Mart's Alleged Misconduct

The lawsuits in New York and Washington charge that Wal-Mart, the self-proclaimed fastest growing and largest private employer in the United States, has systematically avoided paying employees their full, earned wages. Wal-Mart provides perverse incentives for managers to lower overhead costs, the largest component of which is employee payroll, by offering financial compensation and bonuses.

Managers subsequently under-staff projects and Wal-Mart stores in general. These efforts force employees to work off-the-clock and through lunch and rest breaks. Managers pressure employees to complete assignments, while refusing to permit employees to stay on-the-clock for the full amount of time it takes to accomplish their duties.

The class action lawsuits include specific allegations that Wal-Mart:

understaffs its stores and pressures employees to complete assignments while refusing to permit employees to stay on-the-clock for the time it takes to accomplish them;

denies pay for time worked off-the-clock, through meal or rest breaks, and overtime; and

keeps employees locked in Wal-Mart stores after closing and requires that they remain there after clocking out until store managers have visited every department.

New York and Washington Investigation

We are actively investigating Wal-Mart's practices in New York and Washington in order to present further evidence to the courts in these cases. It is important for us to convince the courts to protect all Wal-Mart employees in these states by treating the cases as class action lawsuits. Therefore, we would like to hear from current or former Wal-Mart employees in New York or Washington about your experiences at Wal-Mart. Please click here to contact Lieff Cabraser.

Experiences of Name Plaintiff Maria Gamble

One of the class representatives in the New York lawsuit, Maria Gamble of Suffolk County, New York, claims that while she worked at Wal-Mart as a customer service manager, Wal-Mart supervisors locked her in the store with her co-employees after the store closed when all employees were "off-the-clock." Ms. Gamble described her experiences at Wal-Mart:

"When I worked at Wal-Mart, we were routinely expected to work at times when we were not paid. The worst part of this was we were locked-in to the store at night. Every week, I worked at least one shift that went from 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. or 3 p.m. to 11 p.m. When the store closed at the end of my shift, the manager or the person closing the store would lock the exterior doors but the hourly employees like me would have to remain in the store and restock merchandise and count out the cash registers, even though we had already clocked off and were not getting paid. The tasks we had to do after the store closed always took at least an hour-and-a-half, and often two hours. The doors weren't unlocked until the work was completed. There were other ways in which I wasn't paid for time I was working, as well, such as mandatory attendance at unpaid meetings, and times I had to work through lunch and breaks."

tailgater
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:39:00 AM
They pay what they can.

If nobody worked there, they'd have to pay more.

If everybody quit, they'd have to change their work tactics.

So, although I don't agree with treating employees poorly, they by no means are forcing anybody to work there.

Also, if a supplier doesn't like their payment plans, then they shouldn't sell their goods to them. My company recently made a similar decision with Newell Rubbermaid.

We were going to be able to increase our production volume by 100%, but we would have to deal with their 90 day payments and have no long term guarantee of business volume.

We politely said "no thank you".

I don't consider them evil. I simply made a decision.

From a consumers perspective, their prices are low and their returns policy is easy. How can you beat that?

wilberdew
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:10:00 AM
I personally can't stand the thought of going to a Walmart. They built a Super Walmart just on the edge of town about 5 years ago. Since then, 2 grocery stores and just about all the mom and pop buisness's in town have closed. and when Walmart comes to town Lowes is not far behind. All 3 lumber yards have closed,and what I don't understand is they had better lumber and prices than Lowes; but thats another bitch. My best freind's wife works at Walmart; she is a photo lab manager, they were getting married and she had vaction in for months two days before the wedding they tell her she has to work on her wedding day, because someone had been fired and if she couldn't find her own fill in from another store she would have to work.shes been with Walmart for 19 years.
MACS
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:10:00 AM
I shop there. It's the closest store to me that offers "One stop shoppin'".

Always low prices... always.

Maybe because they pay their employees crappy? They don't HAVE to work there...

Country
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:19:00 AM
it's a little bit of a simple solution to just tell the people who are upset with how they are being treated that they don't have to work there...

remember that next time you eat at McDonalds and they treat you bad or get your food wrong, you don't have to eat there, you could make your own food. Surely that's the right way to look at things, right?

grishuha
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:03:00 AM
Author: Country

...remember that next time you eat at McDonalds and they treat you bad or get your food wrong, you don't have to eat there, you could make your own food. Surely that's the right way to look at things, right?

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Correct, this is the right way to look at it...

andytv
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:13:00 AM
WalMart has the best price on big bottles of Clamato.

'nuff said.