tailgater--i'm listening as hard as i can and waiting for a copy of a tape. i think the landing was real, but i'm open to see other input.

Tailgater--Photos of the landing site and other objects had the lens reference crosshairs OVER the objects they were shooting. Shadows of the objects were in the SAME directions as the light sources. The LLAM had no crator or dust expelled from the site when the flame kernel was ignited or when it lifted off. The photography was perfect and the cameras were mounted to the astronauts' STOMACHS. How accurate are you with a camera that you can take pics from your stomach and have them all come out beautiful? We have absolutely no evidence that the items used in the landing are even on the moon. They say that its too far to see accurately yet they can see other galaxies. I can go on and on. What proof do you have that they did get there and go? I swear that Im no nut or crazy conspirator. There is so much evidence about it, its crazy. I believed that they did up until the part where i saw the tape. Believe me, im not easily swayed either. Im very skeptical about anything and everything. I dont live in a house where i have like 17 cats or anything and im not some crazy hermit. Hehe. Im sending a tape to Rick. Hell see too. You should just see it and give it a chance. Hey, everyone thought the world was flat too.

I meant that the crosshairs were covered by the objects themselves. Sorry for the typo.

Tailgater--send me your address, I'll ship a tape to you. [email protected]

Tailgater-- Do you remember the video of the flag being in the ground on the moon? Well why was the flag blowing in the wind if there is no atmosphere on the moon? There are no winds on the moon without there being some kind of air convection. You cant have air convection WITHOUT AIR. Sorry for the 900 posts in a row guys. Its just that i think of things right after i post and i cant help it. hehe. im freaky that way. Tailgater, get back to me about the tape. I want to hear what you have to say after seeing it.

I just looked at the BAD ASTRONOMY site that dispells the hoax theory and this is why i dont believe this source to be reliable at all.


First, this is one man dispelling everything that over 50 people had said. he doesnt really sound like he knows what he is talking about. he is presenting things he calls proof, yet it just doesnt make sense. Physics doesnt lie. i think that people here have a pretty good sense of what the common effects of physics laws are. You drop something, it falls. Simple deduction. He is saying how the flag could have moved in a vaccuum by the pole having been manipulated before the pics was taken. Maybe thats why the flag kept blowing in different ripple patterns. Wavelength and its science tells different. I was a physics major in college and what he says isnt really true. I do in fact have to dispell a lot of what this man says is proof of how the hoax never happened. Remember, its really convenient for 1 man to be able to give EVERY reason why this couldnt be a hoax. He tries to dispell EVERY sinlge thing said. Sounds like hes trying really hard, no?

Davey, the flag is not blowing in the wind, that is the way it was attached to the pole, so the flag would be visible. Framed so to speak! Charlie

the flag is NOT blowing in a breeze of any kind ... the flag is RIGID and is fixed in that position expressly BECAUSE there is no atmosphere there ... I remember that being explained clearly at the time of the moon landing(s) ...

if you saw the video, you would see the flag blowing in the wind! its not even a small movement. You can obviously see it blowing in the wind. There are arguments why it would be blowing in the wind by the people saying that it wasnt a hoax. It is not remotely still. Its flapping and rippling. Thats my whole point.

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Daveyg2: The video is a hoax...step away from the mushrooms...

I am swaying to the please kill me angle of this. The moon is a wonderful rock and i hope to go there someday.

I'm an engineer by degree. I'm no scientist, but I need some evidence to believe something. But I love hoax's and look into such interesting things as UFO's and ghosts all the time. My point? Although I have yet to see the video, I found some web sites that show the "evidence" point by point. And it is very believable. Until you read the easy to understand rebuttals. Go to badastronomy.com and see why the flag is "waving". As for proof, I can't give you proof that Australia really exists since I haven't been there. But I know it does. Dave, my address is on the way. Thanks.

Everyone's getting along! I need a tissue!

Rick, I have heard the Arby's on Mars was faked.

eleltea. arby's, best fast food restaurant. second fatburger.
actually the best is the stage deli in green valley, in the green valley station casino, but it is the only one in exsistance as a fast food restaurant so it's hard to include it in a list. both time i went to mcdonald's i left the first bite chewed in a napkin and even though i wanted to use the rest room, i told toby i wouldn't even sh*t in a mctoilet.

Rick, McDonald's are the travelers' friend. When I am on the road and need to drain the lizard, I start looking for the golden arches. Don't necessarily have a burger, but I figure over the years most of us have paid for the privilege. Next time you can go on my tab.

BTW, I am hoping this thread sets the all-time record for number of highjackings. Anybody else got anything to introduce here that doesn't have s#!t to do with what I posted?

I see that while Rick and I are poles apart politically, we are in close agreement on McD's ... I couldn't agree more, they AREN'T worth a sh*t ...

DITTO DOUBLE DITTOS on McCraps erh McDonald's! Horrible trash served with a smile! Charlie

In N Out burgers rule. (Highjacks own thread)