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Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:27:00 PM
Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged

By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - It was billed as a conversation with U.S. troops, but the questions President Bush asked on a teleconference call Thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in Iraq and Saturday's vote on a new Iraqi constitution.

"This is an important time," Allison Barber, deputy assistant defense secretary, said, coaching the soldiers before Bush arrived. "The president is looking forward to having just a conversation with you."

Barber said the president was interested in three topics: the overall security situation in Iraq, security preparations for the weekend vote and efforts to train Iraqi troops.

As she spoke in Washington, a live shot of 10 soldiers from the Army's 42nd Infantry Division and one Iraqi soldier was beamed into the Eisenhower Executive Office Building from Tikrit — the birthplace of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

"I'm going to ask somebody to grab those two water bottles against the wall and move them out of the camera shot for me," Barber said.

A brief rehearsal ensued.

"OK, so let's just walk through this," Barber said. "Captain Kennedy, you answer the first question and you hand the mike to whom?"

"Captain Smith," Kennedy said.

"Captain. Smith? You take the mike and you hand it to whom?" she asked.

"Captain Kennedy," the soldier replied.

And so it went.

"If the question comes up about partnering — how often do we train with the Iraqi military — who does he go to?" Barber asked.

"That's going to go to Captain Pratt," one of the soldiers said.

"And then if we're going to talk a little bit about the folks in Tikrit — the hometown — and how they're handling the political process, who are we going to give that to?" she asked.

Before he took questions, Bush thanked the soldiers for serving and reassured them that the U.S. would not pull out of Iraq until the mission was complete.

"So long as I'm the president, we're never going to back down, we're never going to give in, we'll never accept anything less than total victory," Bush said.

The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.

"You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said.

Less than 40 percent in an AP-Ipsos poll taken in October said they approved of the way Bush was handling Iraq. Just over half of the public now say the Iraq war was a mistake.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Thursday's event was coordinated with the Defense Department but that the troops were expressing their own thoughts. With satellite feeds, coordination often is needed to overcome technological challenges, such as delays, he said.

"I think all they were doing was talking to the troops and letting them know what to expect," he said, adding that the president wanted to talk with troops on the ground who have firsthand knowledge about the situation.

The soldiers all gave Bush an upbeat view of the situation.

The president also got praise from the Iraqi soldier who was part of the chat.

"Thank you very much for everything," he gushed. "I like you."

On preparations for the vote, 1st Lt. Gregg Murphy of Tennessee said: "Sir, we are prepared to do whatever it takes to make this thing a success. ... Back in January, when we were preparing for that election, we had to lead the way. We set up the coordination, we made the plan. We're really happy to see, during the preparation for this one, sir, they're doing everything."

On the training of Iraqi security forces, Master Sgt. Corine Lombardo from Scotia, N.Y., said to Bush: "I can tell you over the past 10 months, we've seen a tremendous increase in the capabilities and the confidences of our Iraqi security force partners. ... Over the next month, we anticipate seeing at least one-third of those Iraqi forces conducting independent operations."

Lombardo told the president that she was in New York City on Nov. 11, 2001, when Bush attended an event recognizing soldiers for their recovery and rescue efforts at Ground Zero. She said the troops began the fight against terrorism in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and were proud to continue it in Iraq.

"I thought you looked familiar," Bush said, and then joked: "I probably look familiar to you, too."

Paul Rieckhoff, director of the New York-based Operation Truth, an advocacy group for U.S. veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan, denounced the event as a "carefully scripted publicity stunt." Five of the 10 U.S. troops involved were officers, he said.

"If he wants the real opinions of the troops, he can't do it in a nationally televised teleconference," Rieckhoff said. "He needs to be talking to the boots on the ground and that's not a bunch of captains."

jetblasted
Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:41:00 PM
Not to mention how cheesy it looked, too . . .
MACS
Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:12:00 PM
I avoid top brass like the plague.

You think i'm a straight shooter just when I am here?

I understand military bearing and military etiquette, but I refuse to kiss someone's ass. Period. Most of the high ranking officials i've met, and I work for the 3 star admiral who is in charge of the entire pacific fleet, act like you don't exist unless you outrank them. In fact, i'll be willing to bet if I walked into his office tomorrow and said hello (If I got past his flag secretary) he'd ask who the hell I was.

I just can't fathom how these guys can think their **** don't stink. I would imagine the President must be the same damn way. I can see it on his face sometimes.

I will retire from the military in 2 years and I will not look back. I do not want a job working anywhere NEAR a base.

herfsnipe
Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:42:00 PM
Nothing having to do with the President on television is UNREHEARESED. There are very few un-spun moments.

When the Sec of the Navy came to our ship in 1997, they selected 5 personnel to ask questions. The Secretary's people told them where to stand, how to ask the question, and NOT TO FOLLOW UP THE QUESTION. These sessions ARE ALL STAGED.

Thom
Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:44:00 PM
But you know that this one of the ways how he got to where he is. Look at his campaign and where and how he spoke. You had to sign a freaking pledge of loyalty and that you will only vote for Bush or some such crap. Has he ever taken a question in an assembly from anyone who wasn't already pre-chosen? It's par for the course.
rugrunner
Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:51:00 PM
Thom, you don't have a clue about what you are saying. I went to see President Bush speak during the campaign. I was asked no such thing. I picked up tickets for a friend and for my daughter. They wanted to know the names of who the tickets were going to, and that was it. My wife was invited to be on stage with our son. She was asked to pledge no such thing.
erkwgz
Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:56:00 PM
Was she asked any questions though Rug? That is the point Thom is trying to make. The Q&A sessions are all bull**** prestaged events.

Later.....Erik

rugrunner
Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:56:00 PM
AVB, How stupid are you? Stupid enough to think it was Bush that set this up personally, as you title suggests? They used to do it to us in the 80's(when I was in the service) when anyone with more then 1 star was coming around. I would guess this type of thing goes back to WWII at least.
MACS
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:01:00 PM
^^ what Erik said.

I voted for Bush rug... but i'll tell you straight up that NO politician wants to be asked a question he didn't have time to prepare for if it's going to be on TV or radio or any media source.

They'd more than likely look like an idiot and Bush is good at that even when the stuff is rehearsed.

erkwgz
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:02:00 PM
Rug,

How stupid are you? Of course it wasn't set up by Bush personally. Everything the man does is set up by his handlers. The man could not make a public appearance without it being set up. He is just not a good enough public speaker to do that. You think Karl Rove would let him answer questions in a forum with no preset ground rules? If you do you are not as smart as I think you are.

Later.....Erik

RICKAMAVEN
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:14:00 PM
rugrunner

when you start with "How stupid are you?", the rest of your post is crap.

RICKAMAVEN
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:17:00 PM
i remember the original manchurian candidate and that's what the early part of the post sounded like.

as far as off the cuff, jfk and clinton, could hold their own.

b has trouble with the true and false part of the questions.

Homebrew
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:18:00 PM
Hmmm,

Kinda reminds me of the mission accomplished banner. LOL

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

rugrunner
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:18:00 PM
No Erik, I'm smarter then you think. Every pres has handlers that set these things up. The title of the thread alludes that Bush is stupid for setting this up and thinking he would get away with it. My theory is he had no idea about it. Funny how the Bush bashers say bush wouldn't know what to have for breakfast without his handlers, but when Pvt. England looks at some Iraqi's winkies, Bush had to have personal knowledge and approved of it.

He can't be the evil genius and the village idiot at the same time, no matter how many times Rick says he can. Read the post, then make a comment.

adroomi
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:26:00 PM
During Desert Shield, when George Senior came to visit us all for a thanksgiving meal of turkey MRE's I was on the crew of one of the helicopters that flew him around. We called it "Operation Sunglasses."

Two weeks prior to his arrival, I flew a two-day mission carrying about 20-25 of his advance party around. I was with two other aircraft with the same load. We flew his entire "course" that day so the planners could plan what would happen. I mean they literally choreagraphed how many steps he would take as he left the ramp of the aircraft before he would look in a certain direction and wave. They even choreagraphed him straightening his tie. They set up a big fan so that at one point as he stepped off the airplane the "wind would blow through his hair as he looked around."

We had been on a rather long mission for the month prior and I had not had a running water bath for over 30 days (only bottled water to dump on yourself and a bar of soap). I had been hand sewing my flight suits for 3 months since they would tear and we had no supplies to get us new ones. The day of the mission I took a hot shower in the Dharan Hilton and was issued a brand new flight suit by Uncle Sam. They made me shave off the really cool mustache and mohawk I had going on though...that was a big letdown.

I did get pretty friendly with a girl that worked in the Presidential Advance Office. She was responsible for putting his itenerary on paper. We mailed a few times and she made me promise that I would look her up if I ever came to DC.

Well, after the war, in June, we had that big "welcome home parade" in DC. We took 5 aircraft there. Some of you may remember it....it was one of the largest flybys ever. Two of each aircraft in the US Military's inventory in formation flying down Pennsylvania Avenue. Millions of people there. It was really fun.

I tried and tried to call the White House to talk to her, but could never get through. Finally I asked a guard at the East Gate and he called her for me. She ran down and met me. That night we had Amstel (sp?) beers together on F Street, and she gave me a very much appreciated "welcome home" gift from the white house......a couple times.

The next day myself and my co got a personal tour of the white house by her and a few SS guys. It was really fun.

The day of the parade I landed a CH-47 just on the mall right across 14th street from the Washington Monument. We set down first at 5:00 am. We had all the fire extinguishers on board to set up for the other aircraft that would land there......it was to be the mall full of military acft and trucks and tanks and gear for static displays. A few minutes after us, the Marines landed a harrier right behind us on the grass.....I videotaped it....man it was loud! As I was hanging my helmet bag on the seat in back of the acft, some guy in a baseball hat walked up the ramp and into the cabin. He looked around and said to me.....you ready for the parade? I looked over at him and said, "fuggin-A." He laughed and then walked out. As he walked away I noticed the crowd of journalists on the other side of the street filming and shooting photos. I then realized WHO he was and also realized that THAT episode was NOT staged....he was genuinely interested in my aiplane, and had had his driver stop so that he could look inside.

I was pleased. I stayed in the Hyatt Crystal City, made out with the Indonesian Ambassadors daughter in the back seat of his BMW (I left that part of the story out), showered with a member of the Presidential Staff (showing her my military staff in the process), and said the F-word to the President all in one weekend.

I knew then that my life would always be good.....

rugrunner
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:51:00 PM
you have just been to that far away place where the impossible becomes possible.

A place where the secret service is out back, smoking squares, while the President cruises around.

Where a young man beds woman faster then a horse swats flies.

This amazing universe’s name? The Adroomi zone.....

Tune in next week, or sooner, for a guided trip with me, Rug Swirling, your humbled guide for another

Sex filled, car name dropping, and whimsical journey into …………The Adroomi Zone……

Dah Dah dah dum….

erkwgz
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:56:00 PM
Rug,

I will grant you one thing. The title of the post should have read. "How stupid are they?" With the they alluding to the Bush camp including the prez himself. The monstrous egos of that bunch let them think they can put any crap they want out there and that we will lick it up like lap dogs. You can my friend but I refuse to be part of that bull****.

Later.....Erik

Homebrew
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:58:00 PM
What Erik Posted.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

P.S. LOL at ruggy and his Adroomie Zone.

A

Classic Post William.

erkwgz
Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:59:00 PM
Adroomi,

I don't care if you made up every bit of that. It sure sounded interesting. And if you did make it up, you got a hell of an imagination bro.

Later.....Erik

rugrunner
Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:05:00 PM
Erik, that was my point, glad you saw it. As to "lapping it up " from "this bunch" did you lap it up from any bunch prior to this one? They have all done it. I don't like it, but i am not so naive to think this is new. Are you?

What this shows is Bush is a politician.