Before you make your final decision, you may want to peruse this site and look at the pricing and reviews.

www dot carsdirect dot com

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Does that site actually save you $ from dealers? How does it work, send out specs to different dealers and they send you a bid?

Not sure, I just use it for research as far as reviews, prices and options.

When you go to the dealer you have a point of reference as far as price. I would recommend going about $1,000 - $1,500 lower than the price here as an opening bid though.

When I went to get my G35 the sticker was $34,850 and I said "I believe a fair price for this car is $31,350" and he said - Deal. So even though I got $3,500 off sticker, i'm sure I could've gotten them lower.

Starting in about 2000, dealers began jacking up invoice prices of the cars to include not only just destination charges, (which BTW have increased fourfold) but they now include various other charges like detailing, and believe it or not, an advertising surcharge. They pass the company ad costs on to the end user. At least they're up front about it.

I haven't bought a car since 2002, but when I did, I asked to see the invoice. I offered them $400 minus the holdback.

Take the invoice price, subtract the holdback, usually about $500 - $1500, and add $400. They'll usually go for it unless the car is so hot that they can get what they ask for. Most previous model year vehicles will fly out the door at $400 over invoice.

Give it a shot. All they can do is say no.