RDC
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Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:02:00 AM
An interesting perspective...

If you consider that there have been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theater of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2110 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000. That means you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in our Nation's Capitol (which has some of the most strict gun control laws in the nation), than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: We should immediately pull out of Washington D.C.

Buckwheat
Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:09:00 AM
Interesting point. Does anyone know what the death rate per 100,000 active duty troops is in non-combat deployments?
usahog
Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:29:00 AM
I had that info once Buckwheat... let me do some surfing and see if I can find the link...

Hog

HockeyDad
Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:32:00 AM
RDC,

You need to recalculate your statistics.

Based on the numbers you provided, the firearm death rate for US soldiers in Iraq is:

60 per 100,000 per month or 718 per 100,000 per year.

Assuming that 80.6 per 100,000 per year for Washington D.C. is correct (US DHHS and CDC have it at 31.2/100,000 for 2002), if if we use the higher number you cited it is quite clear that 718 deaths is higher than 80.6 deaths. Actually it looks like you are 10 to 20 times more likely to be killed by a firearm in Irag depending on whether we use your number for D.C. or official Federal government statistics.

Conclusions: US forces should leave Iraq immediately. All firearms should be banned throughout the United States. You should submit to Islam.

lofty1
Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:36:00 AM
yeah, that doesn't look right. there must be either a typo or some missing information in there somewhere.
RDC
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Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:39:00 AM
I thought it was a tounge-in-cheek attempt at humor.

"pull out of DC"

I was not attempting to post actual statistics.

Country
Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:40:00 AM
2000+ dead to 160,000 doesn't end up to 60 per 100,000.

Hockey's numbers are more accurate.

Country

Country
Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:40:00 AM
Can we still evacuate Washington?

Country

usahog
Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:50:00 AM
I say we put Washington Under Siege! we'll set up a Tea Party in the Boston Harbor, and call in all the river jon's and air boats to patrol the Potomac

It'll be like old times... some of you guy's can even wear your wigs but you gotta dress in Red if you do! LOL

Hog

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Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:51:00 AM
RDC

i took it as humor.........and i hope the firearms ban in US is also humor , cause that's what i took it as.

NRA Member

Charlie
Thursday, December 1, 2005 6:09:00 AM
I do not have my fingers on it, but the death rate per 100,000 troops in non combat duty is probably around 20 to 30!

Charlie

usahog
Thursday, December 1, 2005 6:12:00 AM
non combat related was in the hundreds both in Iraq and Afghanistan.. and I cannot find the damn website that showed these figures around the globe for US Military dating back to 2002... still looking!

Hog

usahog
Thursday, December 1, 2005 6:16:00 AM
adroomi
Thursday, December 1, 2005 6:43:00 AM
the sad thing is, some stupid f*ck got that message in an email today and forwarded it to all his buddies as a testament to WHY we should stay in Iraq.....dumb f*ckers.
usahog
Thursday, December 1, 2005 8:16:00 AM
Buckwheat,

the website I was looking for was a .Mil Safety site and I cannot access it any longer not having a .mil computer... it gives the total annual mishap reports...

So I wont be able to answer your original question.. but the site is very interesting as it breaks down each mishap and fatlities Military wide and also gives reports on how they happened...

possibly someone that can access .mil sites can look up the annual safety/mishap report and post the numbers?

Hog

Buckwheat
Thursday, December 1, 2005 8:30:00 AM
Thanks Hog,

I think that it would be interesting to see a comparison between "accident" vs. combat casualties.