The Support Our Scouts Act of 2005 was passed by Congress. This law preserves the Boy Scouts' access to federal, state, and local government facilities. This is a huge slap in the face to the A.C.L.U. These are the same guys who don't want us to say Merry Christmas.

Forgive my naivity... but how is this a slap in the face to the ACLU? I mean you're talking the Boy Scouts (a non-religous organization), vs. the term "Merry Christmas" (obviously Christian).

Your title says it all Tony.

Well put and Merry Christmas to you and the family.

The Boy Scouts are sponsored by many religious entities. Look at our pledge.

This came directly fromn the district office.

ACLU suing scout troops in California because they would not allow gay troop leaders!

Charlie

Good to hear.........I am against the BSA admitting gay troop leaders.

At any rate, I think the ACLU gets a bad rap, but it doesn't mean I can't root against them.....and in the cases with Boy Scouts...I root against the ACLU.

Bassdude,

For clarification, and to make your point a little more understandable, could you please reference:

a)why and how the BSA getting these grantings is a slap to the ACLU (please give the details of the ACLU case in full)

b)the details of the ACLU wanting us to "stop saying merry Christmas

After you "show me" where you come up with these two gems of misinformation and heresay, I intend to shoot you down.

Thanks, Adroomi

LMAO@^

JJ

The ACLU has been after the Boy Scouts for years, because of the gay thing. Forgive them for trying to keep young boys safe, adroomi. But seeing as how the ACLU supports NAMBLA, you can see why they hate the Scouts.

The ACLU found a judge to say the Scouts could not use government facilities because they discriminated against gays. That is why it is a slap in their face. They spent tons of money to get the Scouts out of government facilites and Congress said "screw you ACLU".

Adroomi, don't you read the papers dude?

You can't need more details then that, can you?

Drathar,

again...you have only given me heresay. But now that you mention Nambla...please explain to me in detail how the ACLU support them (you seem to be in the "know"). I think it's important and I really need to know the details. Please explain to me in FULL how they support Nambla, and what effect their support has on Nambla, you, me, every other citizen of America, and the US Constitution....thanks.

I'm still waiting for my explanations of both "a" and "b"

adroomi

If you lived in California, you would know that the ACLU actions against the BSA is not "heresay"! Do your own research on your precious ACLU!

Charlie

PS Merry Christmas

Charlie,

Please note that "The Scouting program is far more than a private club; it enjoys a special relationship with governments, especially the federal government. BSA formally incorporated on February 8, 1910 and was "Chartered by Congress" in 1916. It is one of several dozen "Patriotic Societies and Observances" listed under the United States Code, Title 36, groups which include The American Legion, Daughters of the American Revolution, Navy Club of the United States of America, Civil Air Patrol, Little League Baseball, Inc., Gold Star Wives of America, and Former Members of Congress. It is this special status -- acting under a Congressional Charter -- which critics of Scout discrimination say should qualify the BSA and its programs for coverage under anti-discrimination statutes. In addition, the President of the United States is consider the honorary head or "Commander-in-Chief" of the Boy Scouts organization."

Being that it is a US Government sponsored organization....I can understand why the some folks would get upset at them for not allowing gays or athiests to be members. Essentially, a US Government "entity" is banning folks based on sexual identity and religion. That's against our Constitution.

In order to keep their standards the way they want them (which is their choice and I WON'T disagree with), the Boy Scouts NEED to make themselves a NON-state sponsored club.....

It's that simple.

It's separation of church and state.

adroomi

Your post makes sense, but I still think the ACLU is an extreme left wing organization!

Well, have a Merry Christmas my friend!

Charlie

you too Charlie.....rest well.....tomorrow belongs to the young ones. Merry Christmas.

Didn't think you'd risk a response adroomi. Gotta be more carefull not to show both sets of standards on the same day. It's too easy to "troubleshoot" you.

"I haven't had this much sex since I was a Boy Scout leader"

---Lt. Frank Drebin

Rug,

I didn't understand what you meant with that comment. Please rephrase it so that it makes sense. Thanks.

about the "troubleshooting" thing.....of course it's easy for you to troubleshoot me. You take anything I say, call it a lie and then go cower in the corner. I agree with you fully. Why don't you show the board how good of a troubleshooter you are in fact. You've made numerous claims to have proven me wrong and to have caught me "lying." Why don't you give us an example....just one will do. Thanks.

Merry Christmas.

When I asked you for a source on you claim that Bush authorized Domestic wiretaps your answer was "don't you read the papers dude". This might work as a source on the Al Franken show, but here I don't think it does.

You then move on to this thread where you demand exact sourcing for all claims made that you disagree with. This brought about my comment "don't you read the papers dude". I'm sure you knew this all along, but as you only play to the audience, and never have an interest in a conversation, I don't expect you to make sense.

As far as troubleshooting you goes, i'm not interested. I think I have you figured out. I am curious about only one thing about you. Does your voice sound more like Rick Moranis or Richard Simmons? Or maybe Andrew Mc Carthy’s voice in St. Elmo’s fire would be closer.

What? You want my voice? First JonR wants an autographed photo of me getting pinned, and now you want my voice? I'm sorry, but other people pay to hear me sing.....get in line pal.