jackconrad
15 years ago
Well we know where we're goin'
but we don't know where we've been
and we know what we're knowin'
but we can't say what we've seen
and we're not little children
and we know what we want
and the future is certain
give us time to work it out

We're on a road to nowhere
Come on inside
Takin' that ride to nowhere
We'll take that ride

Feelin' okay this mornin'
And you know,
We're on the road to paradise
Here we go, here we go

--“Road to Nowhere” by Talking Heads

calavera
15 years ago
Because liberalism is great until you run out of other people's money.




J
rfenst
15 years ago
^
Liberalism has nothing to do with o.p.m.
donutboy2000
15 years ago
Liberalism is all about other people's money. See redistribution of wealth.
rfenst
15 years ago
Quit being such a dolt and look it up.
calavera
15 years ago
What I actually found, and it was quite interesting, was that "liberalism" as a concept seems to embrace the idea of fiscal conservatism- no big government debt, capitalism, free trade, tax equality.

Then you find liberalism as it is practiced today, and pioneered by FDR. Spend, spend, spend as long as it is other people's money. Since the liberal knows what is best for you and your money, it is only right that they should take it from you and throw it into entiltlement programs like social security, medicaid and welfare.

Total BS.

If you find some real "liberals" of the non-modern day democrat variety, maybe you could send them in the direction of Washington DC.




J
snowwolf777
15 years ago
Socialism and communism get all tied up as "liberal" philosophies, which are not the same as liberalism.

I heard a guy from Sweden on the radio the other day. He found it amusing that we are accusing our current government of trying to fire up "European-style Socialism". He said the Europeans figured out long ago socialism doesn't work and many of them are now pushing for a more America-like system. He also kindly requested we keep BHO over here for the foreseeable future.


TarponMan
15 years ago
Margaret Thatcher had some interesting comments on socialism...


Prime Minister Thatcher said, "...and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."


The present US administration is described as both liberal and socialist, depending who you may be listening to. Either way, we do have a "financial mess", as old Margaret pointed out long ago.
jackconrad
15 years ago
borndead1
15 years ago
What I actually found, and it was quite interesting, was that "liberalism" as a concept seems to embrace the idea of fiscal conservatism- no big government debt, capitalism, free trade, tax equality.


Well call me a liberal then, cuz I believe in all those things and would add:

-No foreign aid in the form of money or weapons
-Limited social programs
-Government regulates/creates money, NOT a private bank (Federal Reserve)
-Foreign policy of non-intervention

...just off the top of my head...
Brewha
15 years ago
Conservatives are willing slaves, and honestly think that the government wants to take money from the middle class and give it to the undeserving poor.

An their owners love them for it.
wheelrite
15 years ago
All Liberals are homos

all homos are liberals...


weird,right ?
Brewha
15 years ago
Spoken like a true conservative, Wheel.

Say, you owners, would like another piece of a** . . . .

;-)

jpotts
15 years ago

Quit being such a dolt and look it up.

rfenst wrote:




Robert, Robert, Robert...


...socialists like you preempted the term "liberal" to cloak their philosophy with the intellectual pedigree of the Founding Fathers. And after they soiled that term, now they're going after "progressive." it is not the fault of reasonable individuals if they then use the preempted term to describe what socialists claim to be.

Nice try. Once the baby is born, you can't put it back int he womb. Maybe, if you take issue with the use of the term that people like you have soiled, you should change you ideology?
donutboy2000
15 years ago

Quit being such a dolt and look it up.

rfenst wrote:




12. Author: pacman357 Date: 09/11/2009  03:06 AM Reply   
It is the folly of the weak-minded, when attempting to engage in debate he would have us believe is somehow intelligent, rational and logic, to simply fall back on name calling, without respect to whether there is any sense at all in trying to label another person. As though applying a moniker on someone else makes it so.

Name-calling has failed to be persuasive as a recognized debate ever since "I’m rubber, and you’re glue" was first coined. It is childishness and idiocy, attempting to masquerade as fact and reason.
uncleb
15 years ago
The subject of this post should read "WHY POLITICIANS STINK AT RUNNING A COUNTRY"

Do you seriously argue that the liberals have been any worse then the republicans at running this country (other than into the ground)??? If so you are blind or stupid... or both. Politics has become a profession instead of a priveledge. Politicians no longer look upon election as an honor bestoed upon them by the citizens. It is just a way for them to milk the taxpayers and lobbyists and fill their bank accounts.
uncleb
15 years ago
And I forgot to mention that JPOTTS is an idiot.
jackconrad
15 years ago
Reagan and Newt didnt run the country into the ground that was done by Republicans who were dumb enough to try and honorably work with Democrats instead of sticking with thier true values..
15 years ago

Reagan and Newt didnt run the country into the ground that was done by Republicans who were dumb enough to try and honorably work with Democrats instead of sticking with thier true values..

jackconrad wrote:



^ You're old enough to know better .... Reagan was a Democrat first, and was a "closet democrat" while POTUS. Spending increased during his administaration. In addition, how can you say on the one hand that Obana runs the country as POTUS, but Reagan didn't and that Newt didn't control the republican congress???

My bias is they all suck ... some more than others........

c3s
jackconrad
15 years ago
geesh that is such a sugar coated theory ..
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