fishinguitarman
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:40:02 AM
NOTE: It has been suggested that in order to be considered an active member of the forum, there should be a minimun # of posts and a minimum time frame that Noobs should be a member here, in order to be eligible for a trade on the Noob Trade Threads This is in order to cut down on some that swoop in here, get a big hit from a vet and then disappear! Please post or PM me with your minimum criteria suggestions, or if you feel that there should be no requirements.

I'm asking you 'Vets' for input because without ya'll, this would not work!

Thanks,

Raymond

IUROX
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:50:05 AM
****can it! LOL!

If you are willing to take part in it as a vet, you should know that you just may be giving stuff away to someone who may never return.I think most of us have had this happen.

A lot of peeps show up and are excited to get into it and then it wears off or their other half cuts them off or they quickly go broke or god knows what, my point is if we still want to welcome new members and try to inform and enjoy this hobby it is kind of hard to put restrictions on it.

MY 02.

Otherwise make them all send a troop box first!

05busa
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:52:26 AM
Did i hit the post mark yet??? I want to get involved but dont thing i have enough posts...can u help??
chiefburg
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:52:30 AM
Raymond: Not sure there needs to be a minimum. First, the noob and vet negotiate the deal (what the vet wants in exchange) and has the noob send their end first. When received, the vet sends whatever they agreed upon. If the vet adds additional smokes and goodies - that's on them because they only have to send what they agreed to send initially.

I usually send extra because I can and it makes me feel good. And, I do it knowing I may never see or hear from them again. In fact, I've dones several trades outside the thread and have never heard from those folks again. It's a choice the vet makes when they take on the noob. Further, if the vets are doing it for anything other than altruistic reasons, then they are probably doing it for the wrong reason. Giving and helping others should be selfless act. Negoitiating the trade prior is a way to make sure the bare minimum is met.

Just my .02 cents......Jerry

05busa
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:56:23 AM
yes...chief is right. Some do go over board,but they do it cause they like to.
hensed
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:01:00 AM

First, the noob and vet negotiate the deal (what the vet wants in exchange) and has the noob send their end first. When received, the vet sends whatever they agreed upon. If the vet adds additional smokes and goodies - that's on them because they only have to send what they agreed to send initially.

chiefburg wrote:

I'm not sure any of you know or even care for that matter but I wrote the origional rules for the noob trade back when I ran it and it was still in the low double digits. The negotiated deal was put in there to somewhat protect vets from dog rockets or unwanted sticks. As long as the vets aren't getting shafted what difference does it make if a noob vanishes?

Just my .02 from the #2 guy that ran the noob trade.

05busa
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:04:45 AM
the vet send what he feels the trade was worth + a few extras usually. We cant control what happens to the noobs or the vets.

All we can do is watch the destruction as it goes down!!!!

Thrilla Gorilla
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:09:22 AM

yes...chief is right. Some do go over board,but they do it cause they like to.

05busa wrote:

As a noob, I would like to say thank you for having the "Noob Trade thread", I was able (with some help from a friend) fulfill my Vets wishlist, and in return, he was able to give me ALOT of variety so that I could see what I liked, and disliked.

For those VETS that took a chance and sent a good package to a NOOB in good faith, THANK YOU for trying to help.

For the NOOBS that swooped in here and then left.....I am glad that they are gone.....I DON'T WANT TO ASSOCIATE WITH THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE ANYWAYS.....I get enough of those type of people at my work, and it is refreshing to be able to come on here and chat, and learn from the BOTL's and SOTL's.

Sorry for the soapbox, but it is early in the morning, and I have had two cups of coffee (and I am at work)!!!

Jason

fishinguitarman
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:19:01 AM
Good thoughts folks...Keep 'em coming!
fishinguitarman
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:25:12 AM

I'm not sure any of you know or even care for that matter but I wrote the origional rules for the noob trade back when I ran it and it was still in the low double digits. The negotiated deal was put in there to somewhat protect vets from dog rockets or unwanted sticks. As long as the vets aren't getting shafted what difference does it make if a noob vanishes?

Just my .02 from the #2 guy that ran the noob trade.

hensed wrote:

Well I just learned something! Who was the #1?

ZRX1200
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:25:20 AM
My thoughts are ^ these azzhats are smart fellers!

Agree with all above.

Nicar
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:29:39 AM
Post #2 says it.... everything else just reiterates it. Thanks to hensed for keeping it going while he was at the helm....and yes.. "active" member would me somewhat of a few posts here and there... how many.. who knows...do you know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop? Oh and Ray, you cannot bite it like the owl.. remember, your dentures may break and fall out!
fishinguitarman
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:31:00 AM
I will say this....I always do a search on each noob when their turn comes up to see if indeed they are actively posting and if they seem to be genuinely interested in staying active here, but sometimes it is still a crapshoot.

But I have always maintained that, as a 'vet', it's worth doing the trades regardless, because of the ones that DO stay and become contributing and productive members here!

hensed
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:51:10 AM

Well I just learned something! Who was the #1?

fishinguitarman wrote:

The long long departed Smithbw. Only the really FOGs would remember him

deadeyedick
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:08:16 AM
^ Yup. Billy and a certain Dr RKS were my mentors and taught many here that "it's all about the brotherhood."

Maybe only 5-10% of noobs stay around long enough to become FOGS but those are what makes this place what it is.

DED

elk hunter
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:29:24 AM
I can see both sides of it... Thing is, I sent smokes to an "established" trader and never received anything back... In fact, he just vanished... Nobody has heard from him...

I think if there are minimums here, they should be for getting into PIF/PIB, Box passes, box splits, and Secret Santa.... Things like that....

Nicar
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:31:41 AM

I think if there are minimums here, they should be for getting into PIF/PIB, Box passes, box splits, and Secret Santa.... Things like that....

elk hunter wrote:

Yeah, like make a list.... of... what's the word.....vouched peeps?

APBTMarcel
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:49:57 AM
Weeee I got in before rules go changing. It's all good though Chiefburg hooked me up and I got him exactly what he wanted. I love the noob trade idea and hopefully will be able to be a vet and help a noob out in the future. I think too many rules could hurt it but pretty much everyone said how I feel and I'm a noob so who cares what I say anyways lol.
TMCTLT
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:04:17 PM
Well I really broke the rules here then, although I've been around a while it takes a little while to build up a decent stash of cigars to begin to participate in good faith weather it be PIF / PIB or almost any trade. So now that I'm conducting my first trade as a Vet I threw all hesitation out the window and sent first to my prospective Noob SRH1 and have no concerns and put no explicit demands on what I wanted. I'm going on good faith that Scott is a standup guy based only on the few posts he's done. I hope when he receives his pkg. he'll be pleased and enjoy what I sent. And I've also decided regardless of what he sends ( I just hope it's not a bunch of Devils Weed ) he-he I too will be pleased. We have PM'd a bit since our initial contact with one another and I feel he will definitely be an asset to the Forum.

USM_Eagle
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:16:40 PM
It is all about the brotherhood, I don't know that a minimum should be required other than being active. The noob sends first so that is a nice safeguard against a vet getting ripped off. I don't know that having a minimum amount of time on the boards will ensue that the noob sticks around. I think it depends on the person if he/she will stick around.

Life happens, I know that my noob trade vet isn't around anymore but one of the best things about Cbid is being able to meet some of you folks and making friends. I think the noob trade is just another way for people to interact.