OldSchool
Thursday, July 7, 2011 10:33:11 AM
Has this rule changed?

I was under the impression that the pitchers of record was determined when a pitcher was on the mound (starters having to finish the 5th) when the winning/losing run was scored?

Example- Last night NYY v Cle. Hughes completed the 5th losing 2 - 0. Final score was 5 - 3, Sergio Mitre pitching in the bottom of the 8th gave up the 4th & 5th runs. Why did Hughes get the loss?? The losing run was #4 given up by Mitre. He should get the loss.

:-k

frozenphoenix1
Thursday, July 7, 2011 10:49:25 AM
did the Yanks score in the fifth to take the lead? and then lose it in the 9th?
OldSchool
Thursday, July 7, 2011 10:50:24 AM
All 3 Yankee runs were scored in the 9th.
frozenphoenix1
Thursday, July 7, 2011 10:50:38 AM
now that I look at the box score on ESPN, it seems that Hughes got the loss.
kombat96
Thursday, July 7, 2011 11:28:37 AM
Prop would be able to answer this.
Nicar
Thursday, July 7, 2011 11:37:19 AM
This is simple... Yankees were losing when the pitcher was pulled.. They continued to stay losing, never getting in the lead, so, therefore... Hughes, the starter, gets the loss
jazzman17
Thursday, July 7, 2011 11:55:15 AM

This is simple... Yankees were losing when the pitcher was pulled.. They continued to stay losing, never getting in the lead, so, therefore... Hughes, the starter, gets the loss

Nicar wrote:

You are correct sir. I thought soccer was the only "sport" you knew about.

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Nicar
Thursday, July 7, 2011 11:58:01 AM

You are correct sir. I thought soccer was the only "sport" you knew about.

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jazzman17 wrote:

I knows about a lot of sports, just enjoy watching a few!

OldSchool
Thursday, July 7, 2011 12:00:31 PM

This is simple... Yankees were losing when the pitcher was pulled.. They continued to stay losing, never getting in the lead, so, therefore... Hughes, the starter, gets the loss

Nicar wrote:

It just doesn't seem right. Mitre is directly responsible for the loss giving up the 4th run.

Hughes a **** as he has been this year should not have that loss on his record. It is misleading...

ZRX1200
Thursday, July 7, 2011 12:04:22 PM
Yankees suck. So its a moot point.
OldSchool
Thursday, July 7, 2011 12:08:33 PM
I'm sure the rule is applied to every team, but hey I may be wrong.
HockeyDad
Thursday, July 7, 2011 12:13:07 PM
You lost me at "baseball"
Nicar
Thursday, July 7, 2011 12:16:58 PM

You lost me at "baseball"

HockeyDad wrote:

It's one where, when you attend a game, you leave once the 7th inning hits... that's when they stop selling beer!

So, you also get to beat the traffic

OldSchool
Thursday, July 7, 2011 12:25:08 PM

This is simple... Yankees were losing when the pitcher was pulled.. They continued to stay losing, never getting in the lead, so, therefore... Hughes, the starter, gets the loss

Nicar wrote:

So if a starter leaves the game in the 5th losing 1 - 0, but the final score ends 20 - 19, with his team never assuming the lead, the starter get the loss? That is an outrageously incoprehensible rule.

Nicar
Thursday, July 7, 2011 12:32:32 PM
The go ahead run is defined as the run that gives the team the lead and stays in the lead. So, a 1-0, the lead was given, and that team stayed in the lead... thus, the go ahead run is 1-0, and that pitcher gets the loss
Thursday, July 7, 2011 12:51:10 PM

The go ahead run is defined as the run that gives the team the lead and stays in the lead. So, a 1-0, the lead was given, and that team stayed in the lead... thus, the go ahead run is 1-0, and that pitcher gets the loss

Nicar wrote:

That's the way it has always been ..... if the team losing 1-0 takes the lead in another inning, and then loses later, then the starter does not get the loss.

c3s