DrafterX
Sunday, December 4, 2011 7:12:05 PM
🤔

Let's compare...

OSU Wins vs. current BCS Top 25:

Oklahoma

Kansas St.

Baylor

at Texas

at Missouri

Alabama Wins vs. current BCS Top 25:

Arkansas

at Penn St

OSU Wins vs. FBS teams with winning records:

La.-Lafayette

at Tulsa

at Texas

at Missouri

Baylor

Kansas St.

Oklahoma

Alabama Wins vs. FBS teams with winning records:

at Penn St

Arkansas

at Auburn

Conference champion

OSU- Yes

Alabma- No

OSU Loss at Iowa State 37-31, 2OT

Alabam Loss No. 1 LSU, 9-6, OT

:-k

MACS
Sunday, December 4, 2011 7:14:40 PM
Make it a poll, dingus.](*,)

The only thing that kills it, IMO, is that Alabama lost to the best team in the country, by 3, in OT, and by all accounts should have won.

OSU lost to Iowa State? Really? Iowa 'unranked' State?

DrafterX
Sunday, December 4, 2011 7:26:32 PM
computers will give it Oklahoma State.. the coaches will give it to Alabama... 😟
8trackdisco
Sunday, December 4, 2011 7:30:00 PM
Michigan State beats Wisconsin by 6 or 7.

Wisconsin beast Michigan State by 3.

Wisconsin is the champion of the Big Ten?

There should be a third, tiebreaker game.

Same problem with LSU v Bama. If Bama wins (after losing to them initially) should they be considered the champions?

Hey, I have an idea.... how about a play off in college football?

z6joker9
Sunday, December 4, 2011 8:08:02 PM
Alabama is a better team, period. That's all that matters when determining who should go to the national championship.
DrafterX
Sunday, December 4, 2011 8:13:33 PM
we'll find out in a few minutes... BSCS show fixin to start o ESPN...
critter2
Sunday, December 4, 2011 8:29:00 PM
what joker said
hambone71
Monday, December 5, 2011 12:27:20 AM
Hey, if I was an LSU fan I wouldn't want to play The Tide again either. Not after that escape by the hair of their chinny chin chin in Tuscaloosa. Chalk that regular season loss up to Coach Saban for asking a kicker to make, not one but two 50+ yard field goals while knowing he can't kick one past 40. The 3rd missed kick was attempted by the short range kicker. If Bama punts in those situations and trusts the best defense in all the land to do exactly what they have done all year, Bama wins. You heard me right., Saban lost that game. Not the kicker and not the players. They handled LSU and played a great game against a worthy opponent. Now he's still the best coach in college football and I wouldn't trade him for anyone but it goes to show that he can fuq up too. And yes, I feel very fortunate that my team has a chance at the title. It is very clear that the BSC, flawed as it may be until a playoff system is created, got it right by pairing the best 2 teams in the country.

If LSU had lost to Bama in the same fashion, I would still argue that LSU deserves a shot at the title because they are still better than everybody else. And I guarantee that LSU fans would feel the same.

stogiemonger
Monday, December 5, 2011 9:41:08 AM
Won't be 70'000 screamin' BAMA fans this time.

GEAUX TIGERS!

MACS
Monday, December 5, 2011 1:50:11 PM

Won't be 70'000 screamin' BAMA fans this time.

GEAUX TIGERS!

stogiemonger wrote:

That didn't matter last time. LSU won in Bama's house.

I hope they do it again, too. I agree with Russ, if you lose to a team and then beat them, you gotta beat 'em again to be considered the champs. If Bama beats LSU they both will have lost only once to each other and Bama lost AT HOME.

z6joker9
Monday, December 5, 2011 2:06:57 PM
Strange, up until now, I thought whoever won a championship or playoff was considered the undisputed winner regardless of previous games and seasons?

Not that I think Bama will win, but I think if they do, they are #1, period.

MACS
Monday, December 5, 2011 2:23:10 PM

Strange, up until now, I thought whoever won a championship or playoff was considered the undisputed winner regardless of previous games and seasons?

Not that I think Bama will win, but I think if they do, they are #1, period.

z6joker9 wrote:

There's the problem... no playoff.

BuckyB93
Monday, December 5, 2011 2:34:45 PM
If the BCS ran the NFL the 2010 Packers would not have made the playoffs with six losses. Same with the 2007 Giants and the 2008 Cardinals. Ya gotta admit, the NFL does something right.
z6joker9
Monday, December 5, 2011 3:48:19 PM
It is a playoff.... with a very small bracket. 😛 Before the BSC, #1 and #2 rarely met in a bowl. Even if there was a playoff, who would have gone?

Let's assume conference champions:

LSU, OK State, Clemson, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Southern Miss, Oregon, TCU

You really think these are the schools that deserve to compete in it?

Let's assume top 8:

Conference Champions

LSU, OK State, Oregon

Non-conference Champions

Alabama, Stanford, Arkansas, Boise State, Kansas State

In this case, more non-conference champs are in the playoffs than conference champs. I thought Bama didn't deserve to go since they didn't even win their conference?

I'm not defending the BSC necessarily... but some of these criticisms are silly.

At least in NCAAF you don't have teams resting players late in the season after they've locked up home field advantage.

MACS
Monday, December 5, 2011 4:31:24 PM
^^^^^SEC fan^^^^^^
z6joker9
Monday, December 5, 2011 4:56:37 PM
Hey, look on the bright side- we'll finally have an SEC team lose in the national championship.
stogiemonger
Monday, December 5, 2011 6:27:25 PM
Conference Championship games are meaningless and unimportant in college football. Who knew? We need a playoff system. Then we can bitch about the seedings instead. lol!
hambone71
Monday, December 5, 2011 9:19:56 PM
+1 for Joker's comments. The bottom line is the 2 best teams should play. I would love to see a play off system but even that would be subject to criticism. What I can't seem to understand is WHY wouldn't a top ranked team want to play the best competition? Oh, because they did already and they won. This situation reminds me of Rocky II when Apollo Creed says, "I won but I didn't beat him".

LSU has another chance to show that they can be the best team on field and not just the team with more points at the end of overtime. Way too many experts and fans and spectators believe that Bama beat themselves.(Attempting unrealistic field goals in obvious punting situations.) That being said, LSU made some key plays when they had to. They kept Bama out of the endzone. That carries tons of respect. Tiger fans wanna be like real champions? Then embrace the competition of the only team that can challenge. Don't buy into the UA and OSU comparison that started this thread. Leave that part up to the computers. Real human beings with eyes, brains, and any sense of how football is played can see the body of work that goes into a team and their season.

LSU vs. OSU? Tigers would put up 40+ on OSU and only allow 17. I actually laughed when I heard Gundy say "Do you wanna see a 9 to 6 game or a 39 to 36 game?" Maybe against Arkansas.

For the SEC haters, I get it. You wanna see another conference emerge. I totally get that. Well, its gonna happen, eventually. Just gotta be patient.

hambone71
Monday, December 5, 2011 9:25:50 PM

Conference Championship games are meaningless and unimportant in college football. Who knew? We need a playoff system. Then we can bitch about the seedings instead. lol!

stogiemonger wrote:

Its a strange situation indeed. I get that it cheapens the league title. But in this case, its still the right thing to do by pairing 1 against 2. But I still hope for playoff system too.

Humastronaut
Monday, December 5, 2011 11:22:37 PM
College football is FUBAR