wheelrite
14 years ago
This is what global cooling really looks like – new tree ring study shows 2000 years of cooling – previous studies underestimated temperatures of Roman and Medieval Warm Periods

Posted on July 9, 2012by Anthony Watts


From Johannes Gutenberg-Universität Mainz: Climate in northern Europe reconstructed for the past 2,000 years: Cooling trend calculated precisely for the first time

Calculations prepared by Mainz scientists will also influence the way current climate change is perceived / Publication of results in Nature Climate Change


An international team including scientists from Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz (JGU) has published a reconstruction of the climate in northern Europe over the last 2,000 years based on the information provided by tree-rings. Professor Dr. Jan Esper’s group at the Institute of Geography at JGU used tree-ring density measurements from sub-fossil pine trees originating from Finnish Lapland to produce a reconstruction reaching back to 138 BC. In so doing, the researchers have been able for the first time to precisely demonstrate that the long-term trend over the past two millennia has been towards climatic cooling.

“We found that previous estimates of historical temperatures during the Roman era and the Middle Ages were too low,” says Esper. “Such findings are also significant with regard to climate policy, as they will influence the way today’s climate changes are seen in context of historical warm periods.”

The new study has been published in the journal Nature Climate Change.Was the climate during Roman and Medieval times warmer than today? And why are these earlier warm periods important when assessing the global climate changes we are experiencing today? The discipline of paleoclimatology attempts to answer such questions. Scientists analyze indirect evidence of climate variability, such as ice cores and ocean sediments, and so reconstruct the climate of the past. The annual growth rings in trees are the most important witnesses over the past 1,000 to 2,000 years as they indicate how warm and cool past climate conditions were.

Researchers from Germany, Finland, Scotland, and Switzerland examined tree-ring density profiles in trees from Finnish Lapland. In this cold environment, trees often collapse into one of the numerous lakes, where they remain well preserved for thousands of years.The international research team used these density measurements from sub-fossil pine trees in northern Scandinavia to create a sequence reaching back to 138 BC. The density measurements correlate closely with the summer temperatures in this area on the edge of the Nordic taiga.

The researchers were thus able to create a temperature reconstruction of unprecedented quality. The reconstruction provides a high-resolution representation of temperature patterns in the Roman and Medieval Warm periods, but also shows the cold phases that occurred during the Migration Period and the later Little Ice Age.In addition to the cold and warm phases, the new climate curve also exhibits a phenomenon that was not expected in this form.

For the first time, researchers have now been able to use the data derived from tree-rings to precisely calculate a much longer-term cooling trend that has been playing out over the past 2,000 years.

Their findings demonstrate that this trend involves a cooling of -0.3°C per millennium due to gradual changes to the position of the sun and an increase in the distance between the Earth and the sun.”This figure we calculated may not seem particularly significant,” says Esper. “However, it is also not negligible when compared to global warming, which up to now has been less than 1°C. Our results suggest that the large-scale climate reconstruction shown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) likely underestimate this long-term cooling trend over the past few millennia.”
FuzzNJ
14 years ago
lol.

it is not proof climate change is a hoax.
wheelrite
14 years ago

lol.

it is not proof climate change is a hoax.

FuzzNJ wrote:



pay attention,,,

Global warming,

particularly man made, a hoax...
GIBrett
14 years ago
Without a doubt there is climate change happening. On the other hand there is zero proof that it is "global warming"
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

pay attention,,,

"GLOBAL WARMING"

wheelrite wrote:



Your arguing like your 12. We're discussing the same thing.

I'm not going to argue the science with you as I'm no expert and neither are you. I choose to trust professionals in their field more than industy paid for 'experts' or pundits. It is the same reason I go to a Doctor when I'm ill and not a witch doctor.

If you choose to deny sh*t for whatever reason, not my problem.
schusler
14 years ago
got to the part about tree rings and lost interest somebody mind summing the rest of it up for me
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Without a doubt there is climate change happening. On the other hand there is zero proof that it is "global warming"

GIBrett wrote:



There is overwhelming proof actually.
wheelrite
14 years ago

Your arguing like your 12. We're discussing the same thing.

I'm not going to argue the science with you as I'm no expert and neither are you. I choose to trust professionals in their field more than industy paid for 'experts' or pundits. It is the same reason I go to a Doctor when I'm ill and not a witch doctor.

If you choose to deny sh*t for whatever reason, not my problem.

FuzzNJ wrote:



Um,Vladimir,

Man Made Global warming and Climate Change are very different..
ZRX1200
14 years ago
More agenda 21 BS.
DrafterX
14 years ago

Your arguing like your 12. We're discussing the same thing.

I'm not going to argue the science with you as I'm no expert and neither are you. I choose to trust professionals in their field more than industy paid for 'experts' or pundits. It is the same reason I go to a Doctor when I'm ill and not a witch doctor.

If you choose to deny sh*t for whatever reason, not my problem.

FuzzNJ wrote:




not all the professionals/experts agree..... in fact, I heard some of the professionals/experts said Obama made them say it was true... 😟
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

not all the professionals/experts agree..... in fact, I heard some of the professionals/experts said Obama made them say it was true... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



ack, no
DrafterX
14 years ago
🤣


it's true tho... 😟
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Um,Vladimir,

Man Made Global warming and Climate Change are very different..

wheelrite wrote:



In your head perhaps. Those two terms are only what the phenomena has been called while being discussed. With the overall average temperature of the planet increasing, global warming was what the media and scientists first called it. Then yahoos like you were saying, 'look, it's snowing a lot in January', so people realized 'global warming' confused the morons.
GIBrett
14 years ago

not all the professionals/experts agree..... in fact, I heard some of the professionals/experts said Obama made them say it was true... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



recently a few of the big name promoters of global warming came out and said that they were wrong and that none of the changes are happening the way they thought it was. And they even said that the numbers of the ice melting we estimated and turned out to be very wrong. I wouldn't call either side overwhelming evidence.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

recently a few of the big name promoters of global warming came out and said that they were wrong and that none of the changes are happening the way they thought it was. And they even said that the numbers of the ice melting we estimated and turned out to be very wrong. I wouldn't call either side overwhelming evidence.

GIBrett wrote:



Link?
DrafterX
14 years ago

Link?

FuzzNJ wrote:






😟
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

http://www.mrctv.org/node/112403

http://lineberycenter.org/chief-global-warming-scientist-recants-p283-1.htm 

This is just two of many you can find just using google

GIBrett wrote:



lmao.

Might as well post 9/11 conspiracy theory websites.

The first link has a guy calling global warming a 'religion' and Al Gore the 'High Priest', and I just stopped listening there. No reputable scientist or news on science is coming from that.

The next guy has done no research. He's a government employee from Australia.

I am not going to argue any more on this subject, hopeless and stupid.

Go read some real books people, and if you refuse to do that then at least rely on those who do this sh*t for a living.
wheelrite
14 years ago

In your head perhaps. Those two terms are only what the phenomena has been called while being discussed. With the overall average temperature of the planet increasing, global warming was what the media and scientists first called it. Then yahoos like you were saying, 'look, it's snowing a lot in January', so people realized 'global warming' confused the morons.

FuzzNJ wrote:



Nice try Yuri,
The commie U.N. IPCC crowd changed from Man Made GlobaL Warming to Climate Change when they realized the scam was exposed...

The Hockey Schtick was a rouse...
A money grab,,,,and complete garbage,,,:-"
hoyodude
14 years ago

Nice try Yuri,
The commie U.N. IPCC crowd changed from Man Made GlobaL Warming to Climate Change when they realized the scam was exposed...

The Hockey Schtick was a rouse...
A money grab,,,,and complete garbage,,,:-"

wheelrite wrote:




there really needs to be a smiley depicting an ostrich with it's head in the sand...very sad how many have let politics cloud their vision to what is so completely obvious...both to common folk and the smartest minds on the planet.

But, it's important we stick to the party line here...damn left wing bozo's think they gonna scare everyone....cuz that helps their agenda, dontcha know...[sarcasm] ...cripes....

say goodbye everyone. this is the beginning of the end. for reelz.

](*,) 😣 😣
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