teedubbya
13 years ago
Papa what part is complicated?
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

So, do you agree that the selection of a VP candidate can influence the vote?
How about that Rubio and Marco could sway some Florida votes to the Romney ticket?

rfenst wrote:



http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/13/biden-campaigns-before-a-crowd-of-660-in-north-carolina/ 


No...I don't. It's window dressing...or if done right...a natural progression within a party...a sheer vote of confidence in Leadership.

The last 3 President's were abject failures in that department!


In some cases they doomed a ticket...Perot especially comes to mind.

The VP is basically someone to attend funerals...run the House...and God forbid...actually sit in for a fallen President.

I liked Rubio as a candidate for POTUSA...having him potentially sit for 8 years behind Romney would only make him more viable but at this time...I agree with the Ryan pick.

With this elecion it comes down to 2 things...The candy is coming out of the babies mouthes or Round II of the Bailouts/Buyouts. Take your pick. One will HAVE to happen...sooner is better than later.

Ryan will be able to campaign at an angle that nobody else will...where's your budget Mr. President? Here's mine. Let the House vote up or down on it and quit holding American's hostage with gridlock and nonsense like the drilling moratorium...bailouts...more wars...OwedumbaCare and a host of other issues that the current clownshoes cannot and will not address!
teedubbya
13 years ago
Vp choice can and does influence elections and these things are getting so close it doesn't take much to tip the scale.
teedubbya
13 years ago
I may not vote for Romney because of Ryan. I've always thought he was a knee jerk reaction kind of guy who overreacts and over reaches.

I was solidly in the Romney camp until this choice. Now I'm not sure. There are more like me.
HockeyDad
13 years ago

I may not vote for Romney because of Ryan. I've always thought he was a knee jerk reaction kind of guy who overreacts and over reaches.

I was solidly in the Romney camp until this choice. Now I'm not sure. There are more like me.

teedubbya wrote:





Thank God you finally found your excuse to run back to the Democrats again! [sarcasm]
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
(too funny)
That boy's going to rip his leotard on the balance beam if he's not careful doing his twirly banner routine.
wheelrite
13 years ago

(too funny)
That boy's going to rip his leotard on the balance beam if he's not careful doing his twirly banner routine.

bloody spaniard wrote:



he's a poser..
jetblasted
13 years ago

Thank God you finally found your excuse to run back to the Democrats again! [sarcasm]

HockeyDad wrote:




Sarcasm ??
gringococolo
13 years ago

I may not vote for Romney because of Ryan. I've always thought he was a knee jerk reaction kind of guy who overreacts and over reaches.

I was solidly in the Romney camp until this choice. Now I'm not sure. There are more like me.

teedubbya wrote:





OMG. Your white guilt is worse than any of the lefties on this board. Did an ancillary search on ancestry.com reveal some slave owners in your past or something?

Really dude?
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

OMG. Your white guilt is worse than any of the lefties on this board. Did an ancillary search on ancestry.com reveal some slave owners in your past or something?

Really dude?

gringococolo wrote:




Nobody told him the Kenyan King's mom was white...he's ALL IN!
teedubbya
13 years ago
LOL. Nothing could bring me to vote for Obama. He's almost as bad as Bush was.


That doesn't mean I have to vote for Romney though..... unless I need yall's permission.



Yall have minds like a steal trap. It is refreshing to be back to the if you don't vote like me you are a democrat model again though..... I was afraid it would subside. And HD you are an effin instigator.... just like the french to stir the nest then throw their hands up and watch... (I'm talking war not sex...wouldn't know about that)
teedubbya
13 years ago
I don't like Ryan at all though.
teedubbya
13 years ago

OMG. Your white guilt is worse than any of the lefties on this board. Did an ancillary search on ancestry.com reveal some slave owners in your past or something?

Really dude?

gringococolo wrote:



I hope you get waterboarded with key lime water
HockeyDad
13 years ago

And HD you are an effin instigator.... just like the french to stir the nest then throw their hands up and watch...

teedubbya wrote:




Yeah....what's your point!?

Vive le France!
tailgater
13 years ago

I may not vote for Romney because of Ryan. I've always thought he was a knee jerk reaction kind of guy who overreacts and over reaches.

I was solidly in the Romney camp until this choice. Now I'm not sure. There are more like me.

teedubbya wrote:



Not voting for a candidate because of his VP choice is akin to not going to a decent restaurant because they changed out the brand urinal cakes.

What has Biden done these past three years that make a difference to Obama's performance?

Romney was going to approach this election with a plan.
ANY plan.
So he chose a guy who puts his money where his mouth is. No false promises. No vague generalities. An actual plan that may not be perfect but is a good place to start in order to get things back on track.

Don't be pulled in by all the rhetoric. Granny isn't going to be ignored. Puppies won't be killed. Hell, they may even pardon Obama for committing unspeakable crimes against our economy.
teedubbya
13 years ago
Cheney certainly influenced Bush and I beleive Ryan is much too energetic of a politician to just sit down and shut up. it's interesting that folks are ok with the POP a VP choice brings in but seem to downplay the downside. I asume Romney picked him for a reason, if not he should have just gone with carrot top or somethin. You even said he picked him for a reason.... so we should treat him like a urinal cake on some things and beleive he was picked for the things we like. Seems convienient to me.

The VP position is different in every admin. Reagan didn't really even like Bush and Bush didn't have much say (although it was a springboard to the Presidency.) Cheney certainly was an active VP. Gore not as much but again it alost sprung him into the Presidency.

I really dislike Ryan and am afraid he would be cheney like on domestic affairs. Can't really tell right now but it is a possibility. It may also spring him onto the main stage later which I do not want. And in the event Romneys hair die has lead in it we could inherit him as the prez.

So the thread that starts all excited about Ryan as a choice seemed an appropriate place to post about not being excited about him as a choice.

I can't vote for Obama. I'm not all that thrilled about Romney but could plug my nose and vote for him. I really dislike Ryan, and have for quite awhile. He is no Palin in that I find him more credible than her, I just don't like him. But don't get pulled in by his rhetoric. Really look at him.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

...
I can't vote for Obama. I'm not all that thrilled about Romney but could plug my nose and vote for him. I really dislike Ryan. He is no Palin in that I find him more credible than her, I just don't like him.

teedubbya wrote:





Put your personal feelings aside & vote for the best interest of this country, ya selfish prick.

🍺
teedubbya
13 years ago

Put your personal feelings aside & vote for the best interest of this country, ya selfish prick.

🍺

bloody spaniard wrote:


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LOL by don't like him I mean his ideas and politics. I'm sure he would make a great bowling partner.
teedubbya
13 years ago
And yall are helping me decide not to vote for Romney/Ryan.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

LOL. Nothing could bring me to vote for Obama. He's almost as bad as Bush was.

teedubbya wrote:




Almost????


I think he's actually worse.


W NEVER went to the American people and stated HOPE & CHANGE.


Maybe Hope...but never, ever Change...and the 2 together? WTF was he thinking???

Spike Lee on Obama’s First Term: ‘Expectations Were Way Too High’

Lee is doing a little election-season expectation management on behalf of President Obama. Lee came to the president’s defense in an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon, arguing that the hopes for Obama during his first term couldn’t have been higher.


He was the savior – Black Jesus,” said the Brooklyn-raised filmmaker, who doesn’t shy away from politically charged material in his own efforts, onscreen and off. “And … look, I don’t care who it was,” Lee continued. “Expectations were, I think, way too high.”

Lee, who’s currently promoting both the president's cause and his own latest film, “Red Hook Summer,” told Lemon he believes Obama has faced a considerable political obstacle during his first term in the form of a hostile Congress out to block his every move. “We’re blocking, and every breath we take we’re gonna do what we can 🇸🇴 that you don’t get a second term,” said Lee, channeling Obama’s opposition. “And if it hurts America in the process, tough business.”

Also read: Hollywood’s New Status Symbol: Surrogate for Obama 2012

But, he said, although the president’s “not perfect,” he’s still got Lee’s vote this November. “I’m gonna do what I can to help,” Lee told Lemon.

That helpful impulse has already led Lee to host a fund-raiser at his Manhattan home on Jan. 20, where the president's supporters raised more than a million dollars.

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/spike-lee-obama-s-first-term-expectations-were-way-too-high-51626 




There were NO expectations put on W...insert your excuses for Owedumba now though!
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