http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/analysis/analysis-how-spain-became-center-of-operations-in-armstrongs-doping-ring_261622 

here is another interesting read

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/analysis/no-armstrong-never-tested-positive-but-how_261616 

http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/ 

This was a fugging witch hunt.

Who is going to be the "winner" now?

He beat a bunch or other cheaters and now people are making money off it. Same as it ever was.

Real easy to pile on with the lynch mob, how bout we see someone with real courage say something when everyone is ON the bandwagon.

I never did but this looks bad.... not sure if I'd call it jumping on da bandwagon when it seems pretty clear he was guilty..... I didn't really care either way before but now I'm kinda dissapointed in him... 😟

He's rich and now he's walking away. Who loses? People with or who will get cancer.

It is not a witch hunt. That may be Lance's propaganda and one that works if you want to beleive and don't connect the dots. But if you really read the report it's pretty hard to come away thinking he didn't do it. Even if you just read the appendicies on the witnesses etc.

In my opinion

Did everyone do it? Yes. Was he a great rider and likely had to do it to compete with the others that did? Yes. Is he being honest and comming clean? No. Has he actively attempted to intimidate witnesses and suppress evidence Yes. Is he willing to attempt to eff up other peoples lives and slander them in an attempt to stay with his lies? Yes. Should his foundation suffer for this? No, I hope not. Has he done some good? Absolutely.

It is important though, because omerta is still in the peoloton and while I think it is cleaner, the same players (sans Lance) are still very active in the sport (up until the lead up to this report). Make no mistake, it was/is systematic and not all about Lance. He is just the bigger fish and one who has fought back so forcefully (with much to lose). He could have helped clean up the sport in the end. He chose not to.

His smugness hasn't helped him maintain his lie.... at least long term.

Ok...I don't think anyone really wants to know how many times you have to double up the yellow band to make a cawk ring.

Cheating is cheating.

Winners never cheat and cheaters never win. He's been exposed for the fraud he is. End of the story.

I agree with you.

as for the band.... it's like how many licks to get to the middle of the tootsie pop. I've never had the patience to find out.

[frypan] [frypan] [frypan]

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I think only you, Wheelz and I will get this joke!

Who's joking?