leftyposthole
13 years ago
Father forgive them for they know not what they do[ram27bat]
dpnewell
13 years ago
Oh yes, Lefty, they knew exactly what they where doing.

So, God's will or not?

Personally, though I don't like it one bit, I believe this election want exactly as it was fore-ordained to go. Why? Only God knows His plans in all this. I could speculate things like God's judgement on this nation, or for persecution to cleanse and purify the church, but that would just be speculation. As ungodly as Obama seems, his re-election could also have been God's blessing, as we have no idea what really would have happened under Romney.

Still don't like it, and I let my sinful anger get the best of me last night, but spending time repenting and praying through it. May He give us the grace to accept His will, and trust Him through it all.
drywalldog
13 years ago
Well said Dpnewell, and I agree. You might want to rethink it, because I concur.
teedubbya
13 years ago
In related news the sky is falling!
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

In related news the sky is falling!

teedubbya wrote:




No, it was just Sandy. Northeaster on route too after Obama... Who said God doesn't have a sense of humor?? 🙏
Brewha
13 years ago
DAMN! And I left my windows open again!
JadeRose
13 years ago
I guess I'm not arrogant enough to believe that I know God's will or that he gives a crap one way or another about our little elections and what not here on Earth. I'm thinking he has better things to do. It's kinda like somebody praying for his football team to win on Sunday.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
You would think, wouldn't you?

Some say there's a documented connection between weather & how our Presidents have treated Israel. :-"
Don't yell at me, I'm only the chicken delivery guy.
teedubbya
13 years ago
I will have you know that god blessed america. fact.
HockeyDad
13 years ago

No, it was just Sandy. Northeaster on route too after Obama... Who said God doesn't have a sense of humor?? 🙏

bloody spaniard wrote:




"God -damned America!" ~ Reverend Wright
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
Do you guys remember chicken delivery guys? Back in Flushing (NY), my folks would order from Chicken Supreme as a treat. =p~ No KFC or McDonalds around. A couple of years later, we would pile the whole family into the car & get McDonalds for $3 and some change.

Who am I? Why am I here? Where was I... oh yes, the storms, I could buy a squirtgun for 50 cents and still have enough for 3 jawbreakers & a Baby Ruth. FU if you don't believe me.


Ever get the feeling most posts sound like this?
teedubbya
13 years ago
I heard Rev Wright is a muslim
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

I heard Rev Wright is a muslim

teedubbya wrote:



:-k
No, I'm pretty sure he hates light complected arabs too. Hell, he looks like a light complected arab. Scratch that.#-o
teedubbya
13 years ago
where is the big bopper when we need him to sort things out?
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

where is the big bopper when we need him to sort things out?

teedubbya wrote:




By the size of that plane crash...you're gonna have to sort HIM out!
teedubbya
13 years ago

By the size of that plane crash...you're gonna have to sort HIM out!

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Got kicked out of the Surf Ballroom once....on RAGBRAI. Actually my buddy did and I was his wingman. He kept passing out on the bar.

I stopped to get hot tamales out of the vending machine on the way out (who wouldn't?) and he disappeared. Had to sleep on someones porch (with astroturf) to avoid a thunderstorm (tornado sirens and everything). I couldn't leave him or his bicycle behind.

At around 6 in the morning he showed up. Turns out he got arrested for peeing in the street and didn't see the cops. We then rode to our campsite, ate breakfast, made bloody mary's and started our next day's journey.... about 70 miles to some godforsaken town.

It was great fun.
dpnewell
13 years ago

Well said Dpnewell, and I agree. You might want to rethink it, because I concur.

drywalldog wrote:



We may be at opposite ends of the political spectrum, but that does not mean we can't agree on certain points.
dpnewell
13 years ago

I guess I'm not arrogant enough to believe that I know God's will or that he gives a crap one way or another about our little elections and what not here on Earth. I'm thinking he has better things to do. It's kinda like somebody praying for his football team to win on Sunday.

JadeRose wrote:



No, this is not even close to the same thing as praying for your football team to win. The Bible says that God appoints our leaders for His purpose. Paul says in Romans 13:1 "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God." Peter says in I Peter 2:13 - 16 "Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or the governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God."

Peter wrote this around the mid 60's AD after the Roman Emperor Nero had started his persecution of Christians. Only folks full of God’s Spirit could willingly subject themselves to a political leader who would seek to imprison and kill them. Nero would prove to be the “Hitler” of his time. We Western Christians have had it easy, and have no idea what it cost many of our brothers and sisters to follow Jesus. We’re afraid of offending, or think persecution is someone laughing at us, or implying that we’re backward or ignorant. Many willingly gave their lives to be named with Christ.

Back to the point. We are to acknowledge that God put our leaders in power, for His purpose, whether it be for His judgement on a nation, His blessing, purging of His church, or anything else He has in mind. This does not mean that we blindly follow a leader when he goes against God's law. As Christians we are to obey God first, and our leaders second.

All through this election, I have prayed that God would replace Obama with a man of moral character, but not my will, but His be done. Last night, when God had His say, I rebelled in sinful anger. I was angry that the one whom I thought, in my flawed wisdom would be God's choice had lost, and I was angry at those whom I assumed voted for Obama out of sinful greed, and hatred for God's law. I cried out like Asaph in the 73rd Psalm, "Lord why do the wicked prosper?" This was a heinous sin of "self-righteousness" on my part, as my motives where just as evil, if not more so then anyone else's. Apart from God's grace, I know in my corrupt heart, that I am capable of the most horrendous crimes against both God and man. Praise God for His sustaining grace, as left to myself, I could be numbered with the worse this world has ever seen. I apologize to all, whom, when in a fit of sinful anger, I accused of greed and stupidity.

God has convicted me of my prideful sin and rebellion. I am to accept Obama as the leader God placed in power at this particular time, to accomplish His purposes. When his policies spit in the face of God, and God's law, I can be vocal, criticize and fight against them without sin, and even support legal means to replace him, but I must still respect him as our leader, and am commanded to pray for him.

I am a weak man, and know that I may fail many times and lash out in anger, but I pray that God's grace, and the reminder of this post will keep me in check. It's going to take tremendous grace for me to actually hit the "post" button, as I know that once I post this, I can not go back to my old ways. I also understand that many Christians may disagree with what I've said here, and some may be offended, but I must do, what I must do. May God give me the courage.
pdxstogieman
13 years ago

You would think, wouldn't you?

Some say there's a documented connection between weather & how our Presidents have treated Israel. :-"
Don't yell at me, I'm only the chicken delivery guy.

bloody spaniard wrote:



You need to change your avatar to a likeness of Pat Robertson to make those kind of statements.
pdxstogieman
13 years ago
Rub a dub dub

Three Cheers for the grub

Yay God!
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