Buckwheat
Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:52:15 AM
This is the question that my 11 YO son asked me yesterday on the way home from school. I told him that it is kind of a difficult and complex question to answer. I did "google" it today and found that I really under stated the complexity and difficulty in the question. I'm a bit of the science nerd but I had difficulty following all of this discussion on this science site (http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=4875.0). My college physics classes didn't go into the level of detail that they did on the above listed forum. Anyway, I have to love the interest that my 11 YO has in science.

Just got me thinking (which can be dangerous). You could probably see the smoke coming out of my head from the burning brain matter. 🌫

DrafterX
Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:39:48 AM
can't say I've ever wondered this.... 🤔
dstieger
Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:40:26 AM
Weigh an empty bottle with cork. Bottle the lightning and then weigh it again and subtract the weight of the empty bottle.

What is lightning anyway? Light and electricity, and ???? I can't imagine the application of trying to know weight of light and electricity, so the ??? must be the important part? I know that there's a place for theoretical science....I just can't be bothered with it much....tell me the practical reason to care and maybe it'll get me thinking to.

DrafterX
Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:43:05 AM
If you're gonna be a super-hero you're gonna need to keep some lightning in your pockets to throw at bad guys and stuff.... you gotta know how much it weighs so you can sew your costume corrrectly.... 😟
Docta2821
Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:47:57 AM

If you're gonna be a super-hero you're gonna need to keep some lightning in your pockets to throw at bad guys and stuff.... you gotta know how much it weighs so you can sew your costume corrrectly.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

hmmm this sounds very true..... I'm sure Thor or one of those guys would be able to help with that.... :-"

madspackler
Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:48:03 AM
Great story there -

My daughter asked me how fast you would have to drive to be continually driving into a sunset?

She also asked how fast you would have to be to be able to turn out the lights at the wall switch and jump into bed before the lights actually went out (faster than the speed of dark).

Pretty deep thinking for little ones.

tailgater
Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:55:27 AM

Great story there -

My daughter asked me how fast you would have to drive to be continually driving into a sunset?

She also asked how fast you would have to be to be able to turn out the lights at the wall switch and jump into bed before the lights actually went out (faster than the speed of dark).

Pretty deep thinking for little ones.

madspackler wrote:

The sunset would be about 1,000 miles per hour, right?

The earths circumfrence is about 24,000 miles and it's a 24 hour day, so unless I'm missing the obvious. Ta Da!

tailgater
Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:57:18 AM

This is the question that my 11 YO son asked me yesterday on the way home from school. I told him that it is kind of a difficult and complex question to answer. I did "google" it today and found that I really under stated the complexity and difficulty in the question. I'm a bit of the science nerd but I had difficulty following all of this discussion on this science site (http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=4875.0). My college physics classes didn't go into the level of detail that they did on the above listed forum. Anyway, I have to love the interest that my 11 YO has in science.

Just got me thinking (which can be dangerous). You could probably see the smoke coming out of my head from the burning brain matter. 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:

Lighting weighs about the same as a fleas fart.

Everyone knows that.

DrafterX
Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:58:55 AM
🤔

so.. how fast did Superman have to fly to get the world to spin backwards and make the clock go backwards..?? 😕

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:58:56 AM

This is the question that my 11 YO son asked me yesterday on the way home from school. I told him that it is kind of a difficult and complex question to answer. I did "google" it today and found that I really under stated the complexity and difficulty in the question. I'm a bit of the science nerd but I had difficulty following all of this discussion on this science site (http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=4875.0). My college physics classes didn't go into the level of detail that they did on the above listed forum. Anyway, I have to love the interest that my 11 YO has in science.

Just got me thinking (which can be dangerous). You could probably see the smoke coming out of my head from the burning brain matter. 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:

Look at him...in the eyes...and say..."220...221...whatever it takes"

o:)

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:59:46 AM

:-k

so.. how fast did Superman have to fly to get the world to spin backwards and make the clock go backwards..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

Real fast.

Dang...these are softballs you guys are tossing today...c'mon...who's got the tough ones?

DrafterX
Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:04:25 AM

Real fast.

Dang...these are softballs you guys are tossing today...c'mon...who's got the tough ones?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

:-k

if a bear sh^ts in da woods and Bigfoots steps in it, does it make a sound..?? 😕

Buckwheat
Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:07:43 AM

Great story there -

My daughter asked me how fast you would have to drive to be continually driving into a sunset?

She also asked how fast you would have to be to be able to turn out the lights at the wall switch and jump into bed before the lights actually went out (faster than the speed of dark).

Pretty deep thinking for little ones.

madspackler wrote:

http://ask.yahoo.com/20020411.html 

I believe that you would have to travel ~ 670,616,629 mph to beat the "speed of dark".

Like I said; I'm a science nerd. 😕

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:35:38 AM

:-k

if a bear sh^ts in da woods and Bigfoots steps in it, does it make a sound..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

You come up with one that doesn't start with an "IF"...mmmmmkay?o:)

Numismaniac
Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:41:14 AM
Thanks for the story, brother, I love it when youngsters ask questions like that, seems I always get a bit wiser hearing and seeing it through their eyes.

"Threadjack on"

I just wanna know has anyone been close enough to a "strike" to feel a little tingle and smell/feel the ozone burn yer nose, hehe, 'cause I have, WHEW!

I've been lucky more than once, have an acquaintance that still has the scar from the zipper on her dress when it "hit" her, she's lucky, for sure!!! (she was a little girl in a swing when it occurred)

Also adopted a wolf hybrid (a promise to the elderly couple across the road from my place in the case the were to pass before he/wolf passed) when he and the elderly gentleman were sitting outside one day a stray storm was passing. This is quite common here in the Mid-South, accompanied with random lightning strikes.

Lightning hit the corner of the house, but ran through the "slab"/foundation, and gave them a pretty good jolt, his wife was inside and insulated by the wood floors.

He told me it felt like his butt was on fire and rattling, but stuck to the concrete steps, and the wolf hybrid bolted and it was a few days before he returned.I hunted the woods for two days off and on all around the place, and never a site. He was solid white! pretty hard to miss, unless he wanted to "disappear"!

After that he would go into a terrible panic when he began to hear storms. This would be far in advance of any knowledge except the Radar, and when they were of the type that were prone to pop up quick, he would be a good barometer.

Poor fella was a mess, and even though over 120, and 32" plus, he could get in the smallest of places when he got scared, and was actually quite timid usually(my 21 yr old and I were just wishing we had measured the big rascal, one of the best house critters EVER!)

As fer all that "ciphering" I admit to acing Organic and the Physics lab, but despised the math involved, so that was one of my only failing college courses.

"Threadjack off"

Numismaniac
Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:42:46 AM
http://ask.yahoo.com/20020411.html 

I believe that you would have to travel ~ 670,616,629 mph to beat the "speed of dark".

Like I said; I'm a science nerd. 😕

#-o ......I hate conversions, can you keep things in ft./sec.!!!!!!

oh hell, don't even bother, I can't move many body parts faster than a second now anyways, LOL

victor809
Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:43:05 AM

This is the question that my 11 YO son asked me yesterday on the way home from school. I told him that it is kind of a difficult and complex question to answer. I did "google" it today and found that I really under stated the complexity and difficulty in the question. I'm a bit of the science nerd but I had difficulty following all of this discussion on this science site (http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=4875.0). My college physics classes didn't go into the level of detail that they did on the above listed forum. Anyway, I have to love the interest that my 11 YO has in science.

Just got me thinking (which can be dangerous). You could probably see the smoke coming out of my head from the burning brain matter. 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:

A really interesting question.

On first blush I would figure lightning is simply to transmission of electricity, therefore it's mass would be the collective mass of the electrons necessary to do this. But since it's moving through the atmosphere, I have to assume that there is a constant transmission all the way down (as in the electrons consisting of the electrical charge at the top are not the same electrons hitting the ground)....

I am going to guess that the best way to measure the mass of lightning would be to take the current and voltage of a lightning strike, and use that to calculate it out.... my basic understanding would be that would give you the quantity and rate of flow of the electrons... then you just take the mass of an electron and apply it.

But that is a pretty damn good question.

Numismaniac
Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:43:59 AM
I saw that avatar last night Doc, and nearly woke my wife up, I love it,

YOu ain't right sorta like me, I'm sure looking forward to this fall, my friend.

Ilovetosmoke68
Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:55:04 AM
I think it all depends on how much lightning you have. If you could bottle a lb. of lightning the it would weigh a lb.

What weighs more a pound of lightning or a pound of bricks?

Hope this clears everything up, over thinking these things is a brain killer.

z6joker9
Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:08:05 PM