teedubbya
13 years ago

damn that tourette's[-o<

bloody spaniard wrote:



and your assburgers
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
DMV- Some experts such as Robert Wiedemer, an esteemed economist and author of the New York Times best-selling book Aftershock, predict a massive market correction of as much as 90%.

Despite the latest (3 mos.?) 6.5% stock rally and the "stabilizing" real estate market, Buffett, Soros, Paulson(sp?), and other billionaires are dramatically decreasing their exposure & quickly dumping American stocks.:-"
8trackdisco
13 years ago

I said it during the bailouts and I'll say it again...if you want to watch money disappear...PUT IT IN A BANK!

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Where you putting yours, DMV?
8trackdisco
13 years ago

DMV- Some experts such as Robert Wiedemer, an esteemed economist and author of the New York Times best-selling book Aftershock, predict a massive market correction of as much as 90%.

Despite the latest (3 mos.?) 6.5% stock rally and the "stabilizing" real estate market, Buffett, Soros, Paulson(sp?), and other billionaires are dramatically decreasing their exposure & quickly dumping American stocks.:-"

bloody spaniard wrote:



90%?!...

So stocks are bad...
Banks can't be trusted...
Yosemite Wheel is packing the mattress...
Caribbean banks?
Precious metals?
Bonds?..... That has to go bad too as they begin to default.
Bullets and canned goods?
wheelrite
13 years ago

DMV- Some experts such as Robert Wiedemer, an esteemed economist and author of the New York Times best-selling book Aftershock, predict a massive market correction of as much as 90%.

Despite the latest (3 mos.?) 6.5% stock rally and the "stabilizing" real estate market, Buffett, Soros, Paulson(sp?), and other billionaires are dramatically decreasing their exposure & quickly dumping American stocks.:-"

bloody spaniard wrote:



a 90% correction is not gonna happen

a 20% is likely, or so says my $$ guy...

but as long as the big investment banks get free money the market will soar,,,
frankj1
13 years ago
I need to find a happy cigar forum. One where people don't hope for failure.
wheelrite
13 years ago

I need to find a happy cigar forum. One where people don't hope for failure.

frankj1 wrote:



I know,,,

That's why I'm here !

To lighten the mood,,,
frankj1
13 years ago

I know,,,

That's why I'm here !

To lighten the mood,,,

wheelrite wrote:


seriously, y'know. It's like our own people are rooting against us. It takes a toll on my soul.
Can't wait for you to publish your memoirs.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

Where you putting yours, DMV?

8trackdisco wrote:




Not in a bank anymore.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

I need to find a happy cigar forum. One where people don't hope for failure.

frankj1 wrote:



Don't let the door hit you in the ass Mr.Happy.
8trackdisco
13 years ago

seriously, y'know. It's like our own people are rooting against us. It takes a toll on my soul.
Can't wait for you to publish your memoirs.

frankj1 wrote:



Not rooting against America. But if it were a sporting event, USA is down 17 (trillion ) with time running out.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

Not rooting against America. But if it were a sporting event, USA is down 17 (trillion ) with time running out.

8trackdisco wrote:




Correct.

Only a complete fool with some elementary school grasp of this topic would dare utter that. Rooting "against" America? Look at everyone that's ever done that. There's a pile of bodies.

The tsunami is coming and people can continue to bury their heads in the sand. Keep on eating the gubbiment cheez, yakking on your Obamaphone, cashing in your disability(don't tell me there isn't rampant fraud in that! Just go to ANY parking lot and look at the "disabled" people walk out of their Corvettes while parking inbetween blue lines!)/welfare check and any other govt. assistance. All while the debt is piling up past the 50K per household limit. Yes, now there's a 50K per household debt ratio. The Fed cannot raise interest rates because the debt amount would skyrocket. We're stuck. In the mud. What is the Fed going to do, start offering negative interest rates? Here's your -1.5% rate...yee haw...the Fed is the one that's monetizing the debt...anyone with half a brain think for a second that THEY'RE gonna take a loss? You're crazy.

America is being tooled from the inside by politicians and corporate interest groups, lobbyists and foreign centralized banking. The Fed is a criminal enterprise that answers to NO ONE. When they do go to the House...they speak gobblety-gook nonsensical answers. When someone like Paul, Kucinich or even Grayson dare call them out on their game and nail their feet to the floor we get blank stares and blinking. The Free Press doesn't carry the story or it's buried so deep that it's relegated to "fringe" status. The masses want their TMZ style news. The need to have shows like American NASCAR Dancing with the Roller Skating Karaoke Stars. The have to have the diversion because the theft is happening right in front of your eyes and the half-wits don't even realize the van has already left...loaded to the gills. Don't dare tell the "emperor" he isn't wearing "clothes"...the idiots clamor that you're "Anti-American" or some other B$.

The debt is soaring and instead of getting serious about it...our current clowncar has decided to not only run out of the ditch but now it's going off the cliff like Thelma and Louise...pedal to the metal...full steam ahead. Look over there at the diversions though. Get lulled quietly to sleep as all over the world the economic shambes that the derivative commodities the USA created and bundled and sold...exploded all over the globe. We created this mess because it was hidden from view waaaay back in 1994. I've posted the YouTube before from PBS's Frontline show..."Behind The Meltdown". How they continued the scam despite whistle blowers doing their job and agencies doing theirs as well. The past clowncar was compliant and buried it too. Don't DARE utter anything factual or with real tangible proof...you get labeled as "Anti-American" by the fools.

Well, wake up. The fools are asleep at the gates. The roaches are climbing the walls. The well is poisoned. The joke is on them. By the time they do wake up, they'll have nothing and want everything. They're the ones that haven't prepared or even dared look at the swindle going on. Everything is still "Apple pie, Baseball and Chevrolet" in their world. Good luck.

My word of advice...smash the tv...don't rely on it for news or information. It's all tainted. It's only a pixalated plastic device for entertainment. Do your own research on the internet while you still can. That's WHY congress wants to lock that down. The Internet is the last bastion of Freedom. You can't listen to one source there either. The war of mis-information is there too...rely on this rule of thumb..."Figures NEVER lie, and Liars ALWAYS figure". You will find your own wells of Truth. Stand vigilant. Our Founding Fathers fought these very same enemies before. And again...and again. Take a harder look at why they wanted Andrew Jackson impeached.

Yeah...Anti-American...my ass. WAKE UP. The theft is happening.
jpellegrin
13 years ago

Correct.

Only a complete fool with some elementary school grasp of this topic would dare utter that. Rooting "against" America? Look at everyone that's ever done that. There's a pile of bodies.

The tsunami is coming and people can continue to bury their heads in the sand. Keep on eating the gubbiment cheez, yakking on your Obamaphone, cashing in your disability(don't tell me there isn't rampant fraud in that! Just go to ANY parking lot and look at the "disabled" people walk out of their Corvettes while parking inbetween blue lines!)/welfare check and any other govt. assistance. All while the debt is piling up past the 50K per household limit. Yes, now there's a 50K per household debt ratio. The Fed cannot raise interest rates because the debt amount would skyrocket. We're stuck. In the mud. What is the Fed going to do, start offering negative interest rates? Here's your -1.5% rate...yee haw...the Fed is the one that's monetizing the debt...anyone with half a brain think for a second that THEY'RE gonna take a loss? You're crazy.

America is being tooled from the inside by politicians and corporate interest groups, lobbyists and foreign centralized banking. The Fed is a criminal enterprise that answers to NO ONE. When they do go to the House...they speak gobblety-gook nonsensical answers. When someone like Paul, Kucinich or even Grayson dare call them out on their game and nail their feet to the floor we get blank stares and blinking. The Free Press doesn't carry the story or it's buried so deep that it's relegated to "fringe" status. The masses want their TMZ style news. The need to have shows like American NASCAR Dancing with the Roller Skating Karaoke Stars. The have to have the diversion because the theft is happening right in front of your eyes and the half-wits don't even realize the van has already left...loaded to the gills. Don't dare tell the "emperor" he isn't wearing "clothes"...the idiots clamor that you're "Anti-American" or some other B$.

The debt is soaring and instead of getting serious about it...our current clowncar has decided to not only run out of the ditch but now it's going off the cliff like Thelma and Louise...pedal to the metal...full steam ahead. Look over there at the diversions though. Get lulled quietly to sleep as all over the world the economic shambes that the derivative commodities the USA created and bundled and sold...exploded all over the globe. We created this mess because it was hidden from view waaaay back in 1994. I've posted the YouTube before from PBS's Frontline show..."Behind The Meltdown". How they continued the scam despite whistle blowers doing their job and agencies doing theirs as well. The past clowncar was compliant and buried it too. Don't DARE utter anything factual or with real tangible proof...you get labeled as "Anti-American" by the fools.

Well, wake up. The fools are asleep at the gates. The roaches are climbing the walls. The well is poisoned. The joke is on them. By the time they do wake up, they'll have nothing and want everything. They're the ones that haven't prepared or even dared look at the swindle going on. Everything is still "Apple pie, Baseball and Chevrolet" in their world. Good luck.

My word of advice...smash the tv...don't rely on it for news or information. It's all tainted. It's only a pixalated plastic device for entertainment. Do your own research on the internet while you still can. That's WHY congress wants to lock that down. The Internet is the last bastion of Freedom. You can't listen to one source there either. The war of mis-information is there too...rely on this rule of thumb..."Figures NEVER lie, and Liars ALWAYS figure". You will find your own wells of Truth. Stand vigilant. Our Founding Fathers fought these very same enemies before. And again...and again. Take a harder look at why they wanted Andrew Jackson impeached.

Yeah...Anti-American...my ass. WAKE UP. The theft is happening.

DrMaddVibe wrote:




I keep expecting to see you on Doomsday Preppers
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
“Living is Easy with Eyes Closed.” ~~~ John Lennon

At this point, it best be embraced as is. You can't change the wheels of motion nohow. ~~~ Yosemite Sambo
teedubbya
13 years ago
"Most of the experts in here couldn't find Cyprus on a map" ~~~ Roscoe P. Coltrane



who uses the ~~~ anyway... its worthless and takes effort.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

"Most of the experts in here couldn't find Cyprus on a map" ~~~ Roscoe P. Coltrane
who uses the ~~~ anyway... its worthless and takes effort.

teedubbya wrote:





I've been following Cyprus since Nixon gave the Turks his seal of approval to invade the prosperous Greek inhabited island back around '73.
Now it is neither Greek nor prosperous.

The "~~~" helps those with ADD make the connection between quote and author.
teedubbya
13 years ago

I've been following Cyprus since Nixon gave the Turks his seal of approval to invade the prosperous Greek inhabited island back around '73.
Now it is neither Greek nor prosperous.

The "~~~" helps those with ADD make the connection between quote and author.

bloody spaniard wrote:




I wonder what the difference between all and most is?


Billy left his home with a dollar in his pocket and a head full of dreams.
He said somehow, some way, it's gotta get better than this.
Patti packed her bags, left a note for her momma, she was just seventeen,
There were tears in her eyes when she kissed her little sister goodbye.

They held each other tight as they drove on through the night they were so exited.
We got just one shot of life, lets take it while were still not afraid.
Because life is so brief and time is a thief when you're undecided.
And like a fistful of sand, it can slip right through your hands.

Young hearts be free tonight. time is on your side,
Don't let them put you down, don't let em push you around,
Don't let em ever change your point of view.

Paradise was closed so they headed for the coast in a blissful manner.
They took a tworoom apartment that was jumping evry night of the week.
Happiness was found in each others arms as expected, yeah
Billy pierced his ears, drove a pickup like a lunatic, ooh!

Young hearts be free tonight.time is on your side,
Don't let them put you down, don't let em push you around,
Don't let em ever change your point of view.

[instrumental verse]

Young hearts be free tonight.time is on your side.

Billy wrote a letter back home to pattis parents tryin to explain.
He said were both real sorry that it had to turn out this way.
But there aint no point in talking when there's nobody listning so we just ran away
Patti gave birth to a ten pound baby boy, yeah!

Young hearts be free tonight, time is on your side.
Young hearts be free tonight, time is on your side.
Young hearts be free tonight, time in on your side.

Young hearts gotta run free, be free, live free
Time is on, time is on your side
Time, time, time, time is on your side
Is on your side
Is on your side
Is on your side
Young heart be free tonight
Tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, yeah
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

I keep expecting to see you on Doomsday Preppers

jpellegrin wrote:




Isn't that on right after the Kim Kardashian Jersey Shore Real Life?

Yeah, figures.


YOU are their target rich environment.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago
The Great Global Tax Grab is Already Underway


The world will soon be facing a tsunami of defaults on bad debts. This will include municipal or local government defaults such as the one now occurring in Stockton California, governments “defaulting” on promises they’ve made to the people (Social Security, Medicaid), a default on the social contract between society and politicians such as the one in Cyprus (a default on the notions of private property and Democracy), stealth defaults on debts in the form of inflation and finally, of course, outright sovereign defaults.

However, the last option will be sovereign defaults; all other options will be tried first. The reason for this is that sovereign bonds are the senior most collateral posted by the banks for their hundreds of trillions of Dollars worth of derivatives bets.

The minute an actual sovereign default occurs in Europe, Asia or the US, then the large global banks will all be vaporized. End of story. As is now clear, the Central banks do not care about ordinary citizens. They only care about propping up the big banks.

This is why Cyprus decided to default on the social contract with its people and steal their funds rather than simply instigating a formal default. And it’s why in general we’re going to see Governments implementing more and more theft in the form of “taxes” (Cyprus called its theft a tax) in the future.

This will be sold to the public as either an attempt to tax those with a lot of money because it’s only fair that they put in more to bailout the nation OR as a form of financial terrorism e.g. “either you take a 7% cut on your deposits and the bank stays afloat or the bank crashes and you lose everything.”

This will be spreading throughout the world, GUARANTEED.

Spain, Canada (which allegedly has the safest banks in the world), and New Zealand have already begun discussing confiscation schemes for depositors in the event of a banking crisis.

As Cyprus has shown us, when push comes to shove, rule of law goes out the window. I fully expect that when things get really bad in the financial system the money grabs will come fast and furious. Foreign accounts, including possibly even Gold held aboard, will come under attack. Heck, the US got Switzerland to throw its 300-year-old banking secrecy out the window…

The Swiss bank Wegelin is to close, after admitting that it helped about 100 US clients evade paying taxes.

The news that Switzerland's oldest private bank will cease to operate has potentially huge implications for Switzerland's entire banking sector, and for the long tradition of Swiss banking secrecy.

Thirteen other Swiss banks are under investigation by US authorities, among them Credit Suisse, a bank now termed "too big to fail" by the Swiss government.

When Wegelin's managers pleaded guilty in a New York court, the case was watched with mounting horror by the financial communities in Zurich and Geneva.

Many had expected Wegelin to continue to try to fight the case. For months, the bank had failed to turn up in court, saying the summons had not been delivered correctly.

Instead, Wegelin's guilty plea included the admission that it intentionally opened accounts for US citizens to help them avoid tax.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20909168 

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-04-12/great-global-tax-grab-already-underway 



One way to put this into perspective...look at the GM bailout. The bondholders of that corporation are represented by the sovereign defaults in the article above. Until then a bondholder was insured that IF a company did fail, they would be the first in line to receive "something"...after all it was THEIR capital that made the corporation...riiight? Well how did that work out for them? The same thing is afoot.
jpellegrin
13 years ago

Isn't that on right after the Kim Kardashian Jersey Shore Real Life?

Yeah, figures.


YOU are their target rich environment.

DrMaddVibe wrote:




Wrong channel....no prepping for me, I am just going to sit quietly and what for them to walk into my web.
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