All Government House had to do is expand the existing Medicaid coverage and health insurance would have been available to more people. But that isn't what Obamacare is about.

It's all about cradle-to-grave government control of your life.

DadZilla3 wrote:

I think itis more about the insurers not wanting to give up the "honey pot". Don't underestimate their ability to influence things.

rfenst wrote:

I think itis more about the insurers not wanting to give up the "honey pot". Don't underestimate their ability to influence things.

rfenst wrote:

Several thousand per year for mediocre medical coverage with no exclusions and a procedural waiting list is a heap better than paying unaffordable premiums per year for mediocre medical attention with lots of exclusions and high deductibles making it more like catastrophic insurance IMHO.

Besides, either way you can always pay for specialists and special procedures out of pocket as many of us have in the past. No one cried for folks like us back then. It's only when THEY get gored and have to fork out the nickels...


OP, every week or so I hear of business acquaintances either laying off or closing doors.
So if the employment situation is so dire, it begs the question, Why do we keep our borders open to the unskilled workers? 🤔

bloody spaniard wrote:

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VOTES....Nothing more than that🐴

TMCTLT wrote:

So they lower our overall standard of living and raise theirs for their votes. That's sad & probably true.

bloody spaniard wrote:

But, children of recent illegal immigrants don't vote for 18 years after born in the U.S. Am I missing something?

rfenst wrote:

Remember Congressman Bob "B-52" Dornan? They say his margin of loss (979?) to Loretta Sanchez was due to illegals who illegally voted for her.
I could be wrong but I don't think that illegals have to wait for their children to grow up and vote. It's pretty easy to do it right away.

bloody spaniard wrote:

Recalled the name, but not his politics. Read his Wiki articall. Seems like a real hot-headed, troublesome guy: Found this portion sad:

For his final successful run for Congress, Dornan had signs posted at polling places that warned voters in Spanish that they should be prepared to prove their citizenship in order to vote, suggesting that immigration officials would be present. The success of this action was believed to have kept enough Latino voters away from the polls to eke out a final victory for Dornan against Mike Farber in an election that featured allegations of domestic violence by Dornan.[8] A long court battle deemed these signs illegal and inappropriate, and he was not able to post them again at the next election, which he then lost to Loretta Sanchez.

Found it amusing in a sad way...

rfenst wrote:

So if the employment situation is so dire, it begs the question, Why do we keep our borders open to the unskilled workers? 🤔

bloody spaniard wrote:

Because we want our dishes washed and our buildings built and our sh|tters cleaned. If it's dirty, uncomfortable or exhausting, the line to do it will be 90% immigrants. I've come to believe that a lot of unemployed Americans are passing on honest work for lame reasons that would make our fathers really p!ssed.

dstieger wrote:

You just figured this out?!

HockeyDad wrote:

Hard to believe Americans would rather starve than do work that is "beneath" them.

bloody spaniard wrote: