jetblasted
12 years ago
Today's the 150th anniversary of the Gettysburg address & Obama ignores it like he ignored the laying of the wreath at Arlington's unknown soldier.

[ram27bat]
HockeyDad
12 years ago
Well he didn't know the guy at Arlington.
HockeyDad
12 years ago
If you like your Gettyburg address, you can keep it.
teedubbya
12 years ago
Maybe in Kenya they still think it was the war of northern aggression. It's good to see southerners rallying around the union however.
Buckwheat
12 years ago

Today's the 150th anniversary of the Gettysburg address & Obama ignores it like he ignored the laying of the wreath at Arlington's unknown soldier.

[ram27bat]

jetblasted wrote:




I guess you meant to say that he ignored Arlington by laying the wreath on the tomb?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/27/president-obama-lays-wreath-speaks-at-arlington-national-cemetery/ 

Or was it all staged like the moon landings?[sarcasm]
jetblasted
12 years ago
BW . . . He ignored the ceremony a few years ago to party in Chicago.

It's just another of many occasions that he's thumbed his nose at history & reverance . . .
banderl
12 years ago
"President Barack Obama declined an invitation, and parks officials say Rutherford B. Hayes is the last sitting president to attend a Nov. 19 event in Gettysburg."



http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/nov/19/gettysburg-address-event-mark-150th-anniversary/ 
ZRX1200
12 years ago
The Gettysburg Address is statist propaganda.
8trackdisco
12 years ago
.... That all men are created equal.... 'Cept the black ones, of course.
DadZilla3
12 years ago

.... That all men are created equal.... 'Cept the black ones, of course.

8trackdisco wrote:


To paraphrase George Orwell...

All men are created equal, but some are more equal than others.
bloody spaniard
12 years ago
He apparently chose to read one of the versions of the Gettysburg Address that eliminated the word "God".
This country needs an enema. Our pc brainz are plugged up.
teedubbya
12 years ago

He apparently chose to read one of the versions of the Gettysburg Address that eliminated the word "God".
This country needs an enema. Our pc brainz are plugged up.

bloody spaniard wrote:



Actually it was chosen for him by Ken Burns because they wanted to reflect all 5 versions ... He was given one of the oldest versions, and from what I understand one considered to be likely the most accurate version. <=========== Not going to edit that, but I was wrong (sort of). There is nothing PC happening here however.




However, it's categorically not accurate to say that Obama removed or left out the words from his recitation. That's because there are five different copies of the Gettysburg Address penned by Lincoln himself. Three of them, versions of the speech provided by Lincoln to various fundraisers after he delivered the speech, include the phrase "under God." Those are the Everett Copy, the Bancroft Copy, and the Bliss copy. The two manuscripts believed to be written down in preparation for the speech itself omit it. Obama was reading from one of those two earlier versions, the Nicolay Copy, better known as the "first draft." The project's website now clarifies that Obama read the Nicolay copy at the request of filmmaker Ken Burns, in part because of the speech's historical significance. Its one of two manuscripts of the speech held by the Library of Congress. Here it is:


Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that “all men are created equal.”

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle field of that war. We come to dedicate a portion of it, as a final resting place for those who died here, that the nation might live. This we may, in all propriety do.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate – we can not consecrate – we can not hallow, this ground – The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have hallowed it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here; while it can never forget what they did here.

It is rather for us, the living, we here be dedicated to the great task remaining before us – that, from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

The remaining version that omits "under God" is the Hay Copy, which the Gettysburg Foundation pegs as probably the closest in phrasing to what Lincoln actually said. It was either written down just before or just after the speech itself. Many of the Burns project's participants, however, read from the Bliss copy, which is undoubtedly the most popular of the five. That copy is in the Lincoln Bedroom. The Bliss version reads:


Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

No one really knows what the exact version of Lincoln's brief speech was that day. Plus, Lincoln intentionally revised and refined the speech after its actual delivery for future use. But there is some evidence that he added the words "under God" into the finale on the fly: as the AP notes, three newswires of the speech included it in their versions. That's enough for many experts to posit that Lincoln said those words, and added them to the record later.


That and allah just didn't flow
teedubbya
12 years ago
The guy sucks so bad that the moronic birther, islam, socialist, bowing, not respecting history garbage that is largely patently false just cheapens the argument.
bloody spaniard
12 years ago

Actually it was chosen for him by Ken Burns because they wanted to reflect all 7 versions ... He was given one of the oldest versions, and from what I understand one considered to be likely the most accurate version.
That and allah just didn't flow

teedubbya wrote:


You think? Back then they weren't afraid to praise God or give Him credit for all good and ask for His guidance.
Nowadays, we take polls before taking a stand and avoid offending anyone (especially mooslims who will hurt us) except for Christians and white guys. Those brought the hate on themselves.
bloody spaniard
12 years ago
Note the irony? Our current President is a superficial lightweight & yet everything he does is controversial.
bloody spaniard
12 years ago
🤔 You got Tourettes again or just forget how to post?
teedubbya
12 years ago
this wasn't. a bunch of uneducated idiots thought so but anyone putting more than a minute or two of thought into it didn't. To some folks anyhting he does will be wrong. That doesn't necessarily make them smirt, it makes them obsessive.
HockeyDad
12 years ago
God wasn't at Gettysburg
teedubbya
12 years ago

:-k You got Tourettes again or just forget how to post?

bloody spaniard wrote:



It was a weird post. I thought I was editing but it quoted and I didn't think you would want to read the same thing twice.

Must be my colitus acting up again.
bloody spaniard
12 years ago

this wasn't. a bunch of uneducated idiots thought so but anyone putting more than a minute or two of thought into it didn't. To some folks anyhting he does will be wrong. That doesn't necessarily make them smirt.

teedubbya wrote:


I really don't know why folks nitpick Obama on little things like this when there's such a smorgasboard buffet trail of ineptitude, cowardice, corruption, & lies to feast on and behold. How and why this man was elected, much less re-elected, I'll never know.

I've always said, we are a small, childlike people with short memories. Now we just have to accept and embrace it otherwise we'll just get tummyaches and colitis/ulcers or worse.
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