Gene363
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12 years ago
The dark side of male paternity rights. John Andrew Welden gavr his pregnant girlfriend the morning after pill when she was six weeks into her pregnancy, she loses the baby and he get 12+ years convicted of murder under the “Unborn Victims of Violence Act."

John Andrew Welden admitted to giving his girlfriend the abortion drug Cytotec, telling her it was instead amoxicillin for an infection she didn’t really have. Within hours, his girlfriend, Remee Jo Lee, miscarried the 6-week-old embryo that she had already named Memphis.

According to the facts of the case, Welden had forged the name of his father, Dr. Stephen Welden, on a prescription for Cytotec. He took Lee to his father’s medical offices for an ultrasound. The next day, he filed any identifying marks off of the Cytotec, making them look as close to amoxicillin as he could. Welden then admitted to giving Lee the pills, telling her it was for an infection and she needed to take it. He even called her as he drove to work to ensure her compliance.

Unfortunately for her, she did as she was told. Lee miscarried, and said she bled for a month. All she has of the child she had been so eagerly awaiting is a framed ultrasound image. The judge concurred that Lee had an “absolute, constitutional right to decide whether to take that baby to term.”

According to information from interviews with sheriff’s investigators, Welden’s reasons had included having another girlfriend, and being overwhelmed by the notion of having a child when he didn’t intend to marry the mother. In a statement made at his sentencing hearing, Welden voiced a beaten remorse and begged the mercy of the court..

The prosecution had allowed Welden back in September to plead guilty to lesser charges of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and tampering with a consumer product instead of charging him with murder under the “Unborn Victims of Violence Act”, which would have involved a mandatory life sentence. With the lesser charges, the maximum sentence would have been 15 years.

Welden has now been sentenced to 13 years and eight months in a federal prison (likely a minimum-security work camp) for the crime. He has also been ordered to pay $28,000 in restitution to Lee. Welden will serve three years of probation after his future release.



http://crimefeed.com/2014/01/florida-man-tricks-girlfriend-taking-abortion-pill-gets-13-years/ 
ZRX1200
12 years ago
And if she aborted it without his consent it would just be women's health.
Brewha
12 years ago
This was a case of assault, and the boy should do some jail time.

The prolifers will try to call this legal proof of abortion as murder.
ZRX1200
12 years ago
Assault?

So a potential father to be can file charges as well.
Brewha
12 years ago

Assault?

So a potential father to be can file charges as well.

ZRX1200 wrote:


Not in da eyes o de law me bro, not in da eyes o de law . . .
Gene363
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12 years ago

And if she aborted it without his consent it would just be women's health.

ZRX1200 wrote:



This was a case of assault, and the boy should do some jail time.

The prolifers will try to call this legal proof of abortion as murder.

Brewha wrote:



IMO, you are both correct.

If the mother wanted an abortion and the father does not, it's still not a crime, and the father has no rights.

In this case the father obviously did not want a child, but again has no rights and will be compelled to lay to support the child.

Behold the dangers of that little magic place.

Brewha
12 years ago
I think you just have to be on board with the idea that justice and the law are not defined in the same book . . .
ZRX1200
12 years ago
wheelrite
12 years ago
He deserves to be in Prison,,,,


wheel,
bloody spaniard
12 years ago

Truth ^

ZRX1200 wrote:


:-k
vanilla rice?
Brewha
12 years ago

He deserves to be in Prison,,,,


wheel,

wheelrite wrote:


That's not what they said in my arraignment . . .
rfenst
12 years ago

That's not what they said in my arraignment . . .

Brewha wrote:



It is not assault; it is battery.

Assault= putting one in fear for their life or threat of great bodily harm
Battery= unpermitted touching

She consented to taking an antibiotic, but did not consent to taking the abortion pill he gave her. Therefore, her consumption of it (under false pretense) is a battery.

The mofo belongs in jail!
ZRX1200
12 years ago
He should be celebrated by planned parenthood.


Wait.




Wrong plumming, he's ****ed.
gryphonms
12 years ago
How much jail time could he get for battery? What he did was horrific.
DrMaddVibe
12 years ago

How much jail time could he get for battery? What he did was horrific.

gryphonms wrote:




The article that was posted said 13 years.
HockeyDad
12 years ago

How much jail time could he get for battery? What he did was horrific.

gryphonms wrote:




None.

He was not convicted of assault or battery.
gryphonms
12 years ago
I was referencing 12.
HockeyDad
12 years ago

I was referencing 12.

gryphonms wrote:




He wasn't charged or convicted with anything mentioned in post 12.

He coulda got 20 years for counterfeiting. (He wasn't charged or convicted of that either)
gryphonms
12 years ago
My bad, should have read the post closer.
HockeyDad
12 years ago
The lesson learned here is don't conspire to commit mail fraud or tampering with a consumer product. They'll lock you up and throw away the key!

....and under Roe vs Wade a fetus is not a person but under the Unborn Victims of Violence Act a fetus is a person, unless the mother doesn't think so.



If a woman was driving to an abortion clinic and got in a wreck which resulted in a miscarriage, I'm not sure if that is murder or a free abortion performed by an unlicensed medical practitioner.
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