And I’m McLovin’ it.

The Republicans continue the spin out because the U.S. now has national health care like the rest of the civilized world. What a bunch of corporate mouthpieces. But they will waste even more of your time and money fighting the law that was mandated by the voters.

They said it would destroy the United States and our way of life. Well we are still here, people are getting better care, and the insurance companies’ profiteering is slowed for the moment. Yeah, the end is near.

The Death Panel lie was a good one – had lot of folks believing that crap. Come on conservatives! Pull together with FoxNews and spin the next warning of impending doom!

Brewha wrote:

I still want to know where the affordable part of the ACA comes in?

danmdevries wrote:

I've got coverage for the rest of my life, although I am the last priority as a retiree (active duty, active dependents, reservists... then if we have enough time for you... retirees). I'm not complaining, though.

What has me worried is the cost. Medical costs are already ridiculous. Where are they getting the money from to fund giving everyone free health care?

Taxes. We're already taxed too much, IMO, and we're what? 17 TRILLION in debt? And for you Obammy lovers... that's triple what it was under Bush. Not saying Bush was good... just saying you didn't get the CHANGE you were HOPING for.

Just about every country with nationalized health care taxes their people at a 45% rate or more... including us, now, for the top earners.

You can't punish people that make a lot of money by taking half of it and giving it to others. It isn't right, and it isn't fair.

Our government should not be taking care of us to this extent. Build solid infrastructure, make necessary legislations, and provide for the nation's security.

People should be fending for themselves, not dependent on the gov't for ANYTHING. Because when that happens... they got you by the short hairs. If they're big enough to give you what you need... they can take it all away, too, and that's how they get your vote. By paying for it with tax dollars... that don't f***ing belong to them.

And yes, I understand the irony of me being "dependent" on the gov't for my pension and my healthcare, but at least I earned it through military service. Now I pay into my pension (upwards of $600 a month) and put money into a tax deferred plan on my own (upwards of $1,000 a month).

The majority of the people taking from the system now have never contributed to the system.

Tax corporations, you say? We've done that... and they moved their sh*t overseas to China, and India, etc... So now we have fewer jobs... keep it up and we'll have NO jobs, save for gubmint ones, NO tax base and NO money.

Careful what you wish for.

MACS wrote:

So one of the goals of Obamacare is to CONTROL health care costs. And the Republicans really hate that one.

As to the money –
Tax companies that move labor overseas and want to do business here. That’s what other countries do.
Stop corporate welfare
Stop the tax cuts for the rich (Oh No!)
Stop wasting billions on policing the world – we spend 9 times as much as the next biggest spender, I think we can step it down a little. Hell Cheney has already stolen a mint for his special friends.

Brewha wrote:

So one of the goals of Obamacare is to CONTROL health care costs. And the Republicans really hate that one.

As to the money –
Tax companies that move labor overseas and want to do business here. That’s what other countries do.
Stop corporate welfare
Stop the tax cuts for the rich (Oh No!)
Stop wasting billions on policing the world – we spend 9 times as much as the next biggest spender, I think we can step it down a little. Hell Cheney has already stolen a mint for his special friends.

Brewha wrote:

Corporate mouth piece? Who do you think wrote the damn thing?

Mandated by voters? It was done behind closed doors against the will of the majority.

It will fail. It was designed to fail.

Single payor or bust.....

If it cannot function without subsidies it isn't working.

ZRX1200 wrote:

Lowering costs was just smoke to get the bill passed, ACA only adds to the cost of coverage. As for republicans or democrats, piff, the parliament of whores got paid to pass a bill that required citizens to become customers of large insurance companies. The republican controlled congress will do nothing to change the situation except make speeches and ask for contributions to fight the evil ACA. The democrats will do the same thing, but tell folks the ACA is threatened by those evil republicans. As usual, the working man tax payers gets screwed.

I agree about not policing the world, more like intimidating. What Halliburton gets is chump change compared to makers of military hardware. BTW, Cheney just worked for them, do you know when LBJ (R) was escalating the Vietnam war Halliburton, controlled by Mrs. LBJ aka Ladybird, was building infrastructure all over Vietnam.

Gene363 wrote:

Control health care costs? That ain't working.
Companies are already being taxed to death, which is why they moved in the first place.
I believe we should all pay the same rate in taxes. We all benefit from the same infrastructure. Flat tax.
I agree with you here... we should not be the world police, nor should we be giving money to other countries or bombing them and helping them rebuild... f***'em.

MACS wrote:

Corporate mouth piece? Who do you think wrote the damn thing?

Mandated by voters? It was done behind closed doors against the will of the majority.

It will fail. It was designed to fail.

Single payor or bust.....

If it cannot function without subsidies it isn't working.

ZRX1200 wrote:

Then why was it passed the way it was since it was so popular?

A presidential nod doesn't equal a country all united around a gigantic public action like this. Bush (43) introduced Medicare part D WITH DEMOCRATS helping cosponsor it. Mirror that with ACA........

You sprinkle fairy dust on this turd but at the end of the day it won't shine or smell good.

ZRX1200 wrote: