DrafterX
10 years ago
Just add someone to the "No Fly List'... No judge, no jury... just take his guns.... 🤔


Don't think this has happened yet but Obama and Hillary think it's a good idea.... 😟
deadeyedick
10 years ago
One of my friends was informed he was on the no fly list when he tried to buy a ticket. With a name like Robert Johnson there might have been a little confusion. 🤦

Took him weeks to get his ticket. Guess this is what "vetted" means.
DrafterX
10 years ago
Yep.. could happen to anyone... and if Congress says Ok they could have taken his guns... prolly woulda been for more than a few weeks to get those back..... 😟
dstieger
10 years ago
So....is the problem isn't really about guns? The problem is with the No Fly List?
DrafterX
10 years ago
Both... putting your name on the flawed No Fly List will allow them to refuse to sell you/confiscate your guns... 😟
tonygraz
10 years ago

So....is the problem isn't really about guns? The problem is with the No Fly List?

dstieger wrote:



No, the problem is with Drafter --- he can't find his fly and he's afraid he's going on the list.
TMCTLT
10 years ago

No, the problem is with Drafter --- he can't find his fly and he's afraid he's going on the list.

tonygraz wrote:





Move your head a little to the right.....there now he can see it. Your welcome citizen 🌫
cacman
10 years ago

One of my friends was informed he was on the no fly list when he tried to buy a ticket. With a name like Robert Johnson there might have been a little confusion. 🤦

Took him weeks to get his ticket. Guess this is what "vetted" means.

deadeyedick wrote:


Lucky it only took him weeks. Have read reports where it can take up to years to get removed from "The List"

Am betting none of these folks from Homeland Security are on the "No Fly List"
http://www.teapartycrusaders.com/video-congressman-reveals-shocking-discovery-part-of-us-govt-may-be-infiltrated-by-terrorists/ 
ZRX1200
10 years ago
They HAVE to have presedence and that's what this is.
DrafterX
10 years ago
According to Obama's speech, opposing this will be allowing suspected terrorists to buy guns...
they thought up a good one here.. as long as you don't know all the details it sounds like the right thing to do.... 😟
ZRX1200
10 years ago
Do suspected DUI drivers get their licenses revoked, or CONVICTED?

Keep giving up your rights sheep.
dstieger
10 years ago
If you are of the mind that one responsibility of our government to help ensure safety of its people......then you may have trouble arguing against a policy that keeps suspected 'dangerous' people off of airplanes.....IF you accept that those people are too dangerous to fly on your plane, I think most people are willing to keep them from possessing a gun.

I'm completely unfamiliar with the small print of 'no-fly laws/rules' as well as unfamiliar with the language of propose 'gun-control legislation'. However, as libertarian minded as I consider myself, I think I might be able to get behind well written and well executed law that mandates a list of people that should neither fly, nor have a gun.

IF we do the 'no-fly list' thing well, I don't see any reason the people on that list need to have a gun. So fix the no-fly thing and go ahead and then prevent those same people from having guns. Makes sense enough to me.
DrafterX
10 years ago
I don't have a problem with sheeps buying guns... 😟
dstieger
10 years ago

Do suspected DUI drivers get their licenses revoked, or CONVICTED?

Keep giving up your rights sheep.

ZRX1200 wrote:




Not sure what this has to do with gun control or with no-fly lists.



I don't understand....safety and security of our citizens seems to be a huge priority for anyone right of Sanders....(and maybe Paul?), but....only if the proposals or messages are approved by the NRA
DrafterX
10 years ago

If you are of the mind that one responsibility of our government to help ensure safety of its people......then you may have trouble arguing against a policy that keeps suspected 'dangerous' people off of airplanes.....IF you accept that those people are too dangerous to fly on your plane, I think most people are willing to keep them from possessing a gun.

I'm completely unfamiliar with the small print of 'no-fly laws/rules' as well as unfamiliar with the language of propose 'gun-control legislation'. However, as libertarian minded as I consider myself, I think I might be able to get behind well written and well executed law that mandates a list of people that should neither fly, nor have a gun.

IF we do the 'no-fly list' thing well, I don't see any reason the people on that list need to have a gun. So fix the no-fly thing and go ahead and then prevent those same people from having guns. Makes sense enough to me.

dstieger wrote:




that's just it tho... owning a gun is a right.. to remove that right you have to be convicted of a felony... the people on the No Fly Lists are suspects that may or may not have convictions.. Yes, keep the bad guys on the list and off the planes and gun free if possible.. meanwhile, don't let some bureaucrat with an agenda decide who gets to be put on the list just because he posted somethin on a cigar forum... 😟
teddyballgame
10 years ago

Move your head a little to the right.....there now he can see it. Your welcome citizen 🌫

TMCTLT wrote:





HA! Gold baby, that's gold!
dstieger
10 years ago

that's just it tho... owning a gun is a right.. to remove that right you have to be convicted of a felony... 😟

DrafterX wrote:




I dunno....there's plenty of numbskulls out there who aren't technically felonious who probably shouldn't have guns. I am not prepared to discuss how to define mental stability or lack there of, but I got little problem with certifiably dangerously mentally deficient current/former/future patients being denied the right (or PRIVILEGE?) of gun ownership.
tonygraz
10 years ago

I don't have a problem with sheeps buying guns... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



I heard you liked sheeps.
ZRX1200
10 years ago
"I'm libertarian but I'm OK with no due process"
ZRX1200
10 years ago
dstieger you a Patriot Act fan too?
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