TrishS@CigarBid
Friday, February 26, 2016 4:27:49 PM
This is the second flagpole we've installed in our front yard. Hurricane Sandy took the first one down (along with an oak tree in our backyard). The thunderstorm/tornado warning we had this week took this second one down. Hubs seems to think that a fiberglass one will withstand the weather better. I say Mother Nature will do whatever she wants.

Note the swampy grass. We can't even go out and get the flags without sinking up to our ankles in the mud. We'll give the stars and stripes a fitting send off at our bonfire. Anyone know a bagpiper in eastern PA?downed flagpole-resized.jpg

DrafterX
Friday, February 26, 2016 4:29:27 PM
I bet Ram plays... 🇨🇮
MACS
Friday, February 26, 2016 6:01:58 PM
Dang, Trish... that sucks! If the ground is wet and muddy, a big ole cement base probably won't help.
DrMaddVibe
Friday, February 26, 2016 6:50:28 PM
If Ram doesn't...Lars Tetens does!
delta1
Friday, February 26, 2016 7:00:59 PM
bummer...
jackconrad
Friday, February 26, 2016 7:27:06 PM
Gladly it missed us .. To bad but at at least your all ok..
BlueDude
Saturday, February 27, 2016 9:21:04 AM

We'll give the stars and stripes a fitting send off at our bonfire. Anyone know a bagpiper in eastern PA?

TrishS@CigarBid wrote:

Google "boy scout troop bethlehem pa "

They're trained in the proper way to retire the American Flag.

edin508
Sunday, February 28, 2016 7:55:22 PM

Google "boy scout troop bethlehem pa "

They're trained in the proper way to retire the American Flag.

BlueDude wrote:

+1 I always use the local Boy Scout troops to properly dispose of my old flags. It helps that they use my shooting clubs clubhouse every monday night for their meetings.

BlueDude
Monday, February 29, 2016 11:39:00 AM
I'm passing through town on Friday on my way to Philly.

PM me the exact address and I'll rescue both Old Glory and the Gadsden Flag(?) from the mud.

Mark/BD

Speyside
Monday, February 29, 2016 11:45:25 AM
Glad no one was hurt. Could you install a concrete pillar like a parking lot light post has?
madspackler
Monday, February 29, 2016 11:49:44 AM
What did you you do to pi$$ off Mother Nature?

A good deep base and a stronger pole are in order. Try one of the poles on a pivot that can be lowered before an extreme wind event. Or maybe your flags were too large for the size of the pole. (one flag and not two perhaps). I used to do flagpole maintenance for two major complexes in NYC at a previous job.

ZRX1200
Monday, February 29, 2016 11:55:12 AM
Using a fishing pole would have evaded this dilemma.

WWZD

DrMaddVibe
Tuesday, March 1, 2016 7:02:09 AM
What about concrete?
jmsrhs
Tuesday, March 1, 2016 7:25:20 AM
As an FYI per the Flag Code, the flag does not necessarily need to be retired because it touched the ground.

The two pertinent points are:

(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

Whereas the flag should not touch the ground, it does not need to be retired simply because it did touch the ground. If it can be cleaned and it otherwise is still in serviceable condition it can continue to be used.

tamapatom
Tuesday, March 1, 2016 8:14:01 PM
Whenever I feel like hanging around doing nothing, drinking all day and letting the women do all the work, I fly my Bahamian flag.
zerohourhero
Tuesday, March 1, 2016 8:27:07 PM

Google "boy scout troop bethlehem pa "

They're trained in the proper way to retire the American Flag.

BlueDude wrote:

Truth. My grandpa Joe Zeller runs their flag retirement ceremony at the Schnecksville Fire Hall with them. Theres actually a place out back of the fire hall specifically for flag retirement.

Used to help him out with it around flag day every year until I started getting busy with life all the time.

JadeRose
Tuesday, March 1, 2016 8:50:56 PM

Anyone know a bagpiper in eastern PA?

TrishS@CigarBid wrote:

I heard Z plays a mean meat whistle.

Mr. Jones
Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:25:04 PM
you need to bang some "thinner and tougher steel"

down about 3 ft at least ( maybe concrete around that a little) and go up 4-6 feet inside the

hollow poles you are using....

also....guide wires could help ??? maybe???

does it keep falling in the same direction???