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9 years ago
AMHERST (CBS) — It’s been a week of flag-related controversy for Hampshire College, after the school’s Board of Trustees made the decision to lower the U.S. flag on campus to half-staff in the wake of the presidential election–and then decided to remove the flag entirely after a wave of backlash.

Hampshire College President Jonathan Lash told WBZ NewsRadio 1030’s Ben Parker he knows it’s a controversial decision to remove the flag, but he wanted to create a dialogue among those with differing opinions about the symbol.

“There were a range of views on campus, including people whose experience growing up have made the flag a symbol of fear, which was strengthened by the toxic language during the campaign, and people for whom the flag is the symbol of all that’s best throughout the country,” said Lash.

"No easy way to approach this" (removal of #Americanflag). @hampshirecolg president is trying to assure all voices get heard on campus. #wbz

He said the trouble started with a gesture meant to help provoke “meaningful and respectful dialogue” on campus–a stance he outlined in a post on the college’s Facebook page. In that post, he said the Board of Trustees decided to fly the flag at half-staff due to the “environment of escalating hate-based violence” in the wake of the election.

Lash said the gesture was also meant to be an “expression of grief” over deaths around the world, including those of U.S. service members. Unfortunately, the move didn’t work as planned, and many–especially veterans and families of veterans in the Hampshire College family–saw it as being disrespectful of the tradition of expressing mourning on a national level.

“Frankly, doing that, it didn’t help,” he said. “Flying the flag at half-mast just created more controversy.”

President of @hampshirecolg says they were "struggling" to find a way to open dialogue and the flag had become a "heated symbol" #wbz

On Veteran’s Day, someone removed the flag–and burned it.

“In the middle of the night, we have no idea who did it or even why,” said Lash.

So that’s why they decided to take down the U.S. flag–and all flags–on campus.

“The flag had become a heated symbol that was making that more difficult,” Lash said. “We really feel our community needs a conversation in which both sides listen to each other, and we wish the nation would have that kind of dialogue. We felt that if we could stop arguing about the symbol, we could get to the underlying issues.”Of course, that decision has created even more backlash, and Lash said there “certainly is” a lot of anger about the decision.

The plan now that the flag is down is for group discussions with faculty, staff, and students about the issues, but there is no timeline for when the flag might fly again.

“We intend to go forward with that, and then reconsider how we fly the flag going forward,” Lash said.

Lash outlined the school’s previous policy for lowering the flag, and why the decision to lower it is sometimes difficult.

“When President Obama ordered national flags at half-staff to recognize the victims in Paris, something we completely agreed with, there were a number of people on campus that said ‘Yes, but, what about the hundreds of people being killed by terror in Syria and Lebanon and Pakistan?’ and asked that the school find some way to recognize victims globally,” said Lash. “So we periodically lowered the flag to recognize victims of violence.”

He said the school will focus on completing those group conversations before putting the flag back up.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/11/22/hampshire-college-amherst-stops-flying-flags/ 



Whaaa! A bunch of college kids looking for their "safe" space. If you consider the American Flag a symbol of fear, the you should get the f*ck out of our Country or quit breaking immigration laws.
tailgater
9 years ago
It's stories like this that perpetuate the belief that liberalism is anti-American.

DrafterX
9 years ago
fly the flag.. if someone takes it down arrest their ass.. it's not their flag to remove... 🤐


and there's only one reason to fly a flag at half mast... stop making chit up... 🤐
Brewha
9 years ago

It's stories like this that perpetuate the belief that liberalism is anti-American.

tailgater wrote:


And that conservatism is artificial intelligence .....
Stinkdyr
9 years ago
They should just fly rainbow flags.


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DrafterX
9 years ago

They should just fly rainbow flags in Canada.


🍺

Stinkdyr wrote:





👍
jjanecka
9 years ago
"Walking on the fightin side of me, runnin down the way of life our fightin men have fought and died to keep..."
tailgater
9 years ago

And that conservatism is artificial intelligence .....

Brewha wrote:



No.
Those are completely different stories.

teedubbya
9 years ago
Just pull all federal funding (if any) from hampshire college then stop reporting on anything the irrelevant place does.

defcon 0

WGAF about their stupidity
DrafterX
9 years ago
I'd be ok with that... 😟
jjanecka
9 years ago
If republicans weren't busy being so industrious and working all the time not allowing the government to think and decide for us maybe we'd protest all the time too.
banderl
9 years ago

Just pull all federal funding (if any) from hampshire college then stop reporting on anything the irrelevant place does.

defcon 0

WGAF about their stupidity

teedubbya wrote:




Is flying the flag a part of their federal funding agreement?

I agree about stopping the reporting on this nonsense.
DrafterX
9 years ago
well, they should act stupid at home then... 😟
Brewha
9 years ago

well, they should act stupid at home then... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


Yeah, this freedom of speach stuff is getting out of hand. This is exactly the kind of stuff that Putin throws people in jail for.

I'm sure he'll tell Don....
DrafterX
9 years ago
They can do what they want of course.. to a limit under the laws and stuff. .. but if they don't want to get talked about do it home... 😟
teedubbya
9 years ago
If receiving federal funds, proper treatment of th,e flag should be required. If it's not let's make it so. Don't want to fly it or want to fly at half mast when your person loses an election? Go ahead. Just give up your funding. Nothing is free.
DrafterX
9 years ago
True. .. true. .. 😟
Brewha
9 years ago

If receiving federal funds, proper treatment of th,e flag should be required. If it's not let's make it so. Don't want to fly it or want to fly at half mast when your person loses an election? Go ahead. Just give up your funding. Nothing is free.

teedubbya wrote:


Horse hocky.

Now all institutions that get federal funding are required to display the Flag????

You guy are going commie - big time.
DrafterX
9 years ago
Well, there is this thing called respect and It is a teaching place. .. 😟
DrafterX
9 years ago
What a group of students do is one thing. .. but when an institution decides to defy federal laws we're looking at something completely different. .. 😟
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