frankj1
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9 years ago
it's been since right after the tragic shooting in VA that the nation learned of an outrageous, disgusting ad linking happy libs with the sick actions of the dead perp in the runoff to replace Tom Price (facing his own possible demise).

And the lefties have had their own bit of shame, smearing the GOP's female candidate with words I do not use out of respect to females...and stuff.

Amazingly this seems to be the most covered race in the country, featuring a young lib outsider in a well to do, highly educated, strongly conservative community...but I can't find anything using the search function.

HA!

anyone care to join me in my outrage and condemnation, as long as I'm bringing it up at this late date?

possibly the worst we can offer up. filth strewn by everyone...btw, she won tonight. The ad beat the adjectives.
frankj1
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9 years ago
is it legal to post a pity post on one's own op?

withdrawn, Your Honor.
DrafterX
9 years ago
I didn't see the add but it wasn't sponsored by Handle... besides, I heard the rain is what caused the Dems to lose the election... 😟
DrafterX
9 years ago
A third party group known as the Principle Leadership PAC has released a new ad supporting Republican Karen Handel that uses footage from last week’s congressional shooting of House Majority Whip Steve Scalise.

Handel, former Georgia secretary of state, is running for Congress in a special election.

The 30-second ad begins by playing video footage of the aftermath of the shooting while ā€œThe unhinged left is endorsing and applauding shooting Republicansā€ is written across the screen.

It encourages voters to stop the ā€œunhinged leftistā€ who were ā€œcheering last week’s shooting.ā€ It also calls for voters to ā€œstopā€ Handel’s opponents, Jon Ossoff and Nancy Pelosi.



:-k šŸ¤”


ā€œThe unhinged left is endorsing and applauding shooting Republicansā€

It happened... 😟
Speyside
9 years ago
Frank, I'm not outraged by the Georgia adds, I'm disappointed by them.
frankj1
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9 years ago
yeah, it wasn't the candidates running ads or using the c-bomb...supporters dd the dirt.
simply an embarrassing display by both "major" parties in an election that had untold millions of dollars streaming in.
frankj1
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9 years ago

Frank, I'm not outraged by the Georgia adds, I'm disappointed by them.

Speyside wrote:


perhaps that's closer to the truth
TMCTLT
9 years ago

Frank, I'm not outraged by the Georgia adds, I'm disappointed by them.

Speyside wrote:





I'm even more disappointed that since the " tech age of computerization " we now have OTHER states meddling in their neighbor's business and elections.....even if that " neighbor " is across the nation.....that's SAD.


That said, the democrats have been behaving liked a bunch of unhinged maniacs....both the elected (not all ) / the hollywierd subset and their community voice.....THE MEDIA
DrMaddVibe
9 years ago

yeah, it wasn't the candidates running ads or using the c-bomb...supporters dd the dirt.
simply an embarrassing display by both "major" parties in an election that had untold millions of dollars streaming in.

frankj1 wrote:



Washing money the old fashioned way...through a politician!!!!


What will they think of next? A Foundation??? The horror...the horror.......the horror.


Carpetbagging - It's not just for Clintons!
tailgater
9 years ago
Who cares about a buncha redneck politicos?
DrMaddVibe
9 years ago
Democrats Seethe After Georgia Loss: ā€˜Our Brand Is Worse Than Trump’


Democrats seethed, second-guessed and sought to regroup on Wednesday after a disappointing special election defeat in Georgia, with the party’s campaign chief in the House of Representatives outlining alternative paths to taking power, and some lawmakers questioning anew the leadership and political strategy of Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic minority leader.

By fiercely contesting a congressional race in the conservative Atlanta suburbs, Democrats had hoped to make an emphatic statement about the weakness of the Republican Party under President Trump. Their candidate, Jon Ossoff, raised about $25 million, largely in small donations, and assertively courted right-of-center voters with promises of economic development and fiscal restraint.

But as the returns came in and Mr. Ossoff remained stubbornly behind Karen Handel, a veteran local officeholder, Democratic frustrations burst into full view. Lawmakers and strategists fretted about the party’s inchoate message, and some called the race a sign that Democrats should not bet too heavily on converting red-tinged suburbs to win a majority in the House.

Representative Tim Ryan of Ohio, who has been a vocal critic of his party’s overarching political strategy, said Democrats needed to recognize that they were ā€œtoxicā€ in huge parts of the country.

ā€œOur brand is worse than Trump,ā€ said Mr. Ryan, who urged Democrats to make forging a clear economic agenda an urgent priority. ā€œWe can’t just run against Trump.ā€

Mr. Ryan, who tried to unseat Ms. Pelosi, Democrat of California, as House minority leader after the November elections, said she remained a political drag on other Democrats. Ms. Handel and Republican outside groups tied Mr. Ossoff to Ms. Pelosi in campaign events and television ads, casting him as a puppet for what they described as her liberal agenda and ā€œSan Francisco values.ā€

ā€œThey’re still running against her and still winning races, and it’s still a problem,ā€ Mr. Ryan said.

In Washington, Representative Ben Ray LujĆ”n of New Mexico, the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, moved to calm the party overnight, circulating a memo that outlined in detail how Democrats aim to capture a majority in 2018. In the document, which was sent to lawmakers and staff, Mr. LujĆ”n wrote that there was ā€œno doubt that Democrats can take back the House next fallā€ in the midterm elections.

Acknowledging that the Georgia result was a setback, Mr. LujĆ”n wrote on Wednesday that there were between six and eight dozen seats held by Republican lawmakers that would be easier for Democrats to capture than Georgia’s Sixth. He said the next few months would become a ā€œrecruitment blitzā€ for Democrats as they enlist candidates in those elections.

ā€œLet’s look outside of the traditional mold to keep recruiting local leaders, veterans, business owners, women, job creators and health professionals,ā€ Mr. LujĆ”n wrote. ā€œLet’s take the time to find people who fit their districts, have compelling stories, and work hard to earn support from voters.ā€

And, citing snippets of private polling, Mr. LujƔn said there were Republican seats in southern Arizona and Florida, northern New Jersey and the Kansas City, Kan., suburbs, where Democratic challengers were already ahead of Republican incumbents.

Democrats need to win 24 Republican-held seats in order to win control of the House.

Democratic lawmakers are expected to gather Wednesday morning in a caucus meeting, which could become a forum for restive lawmakers to air their political anxieties and grievances.

But well before the gathering, a half-dozen Democratic elected officials and operatives privately vented in text messages and phone calls about a dispiriting trend emerging in this year’s special elections: When their candidates appear to gain traction in the polls, Republicans can easily halt the momentum by invoking Ms. Pelosi.

A spokesman for Ms. Pelosi noted that in some polls House Speaker Paul D. Ryan’s approval ratings were even more dismal than Ms. Pelosi’s and argued that the right would make any high-profile Democratic leader the focal point of attacks.

ā€œRepublicans blew through millions to keep a ruby red seat and in their desperate rush to keep stop the hemorrhaging, they’ve returned to demonizing the party’s strongest fund-raiser and consensus builder,ā€ said Drew Hammill, Ms. Pelosi’s deputy chief of staff. ā€œThey don’t have Clinton or Obama so this is what they do.ā€

On the Republican side, jubilation over Ms. Handel’s victory mixed with lingering unease about the overall political environment. While Ms. Handel defeated Mr. Ossoff by about 10,000 votes and nearly four percentage points, Republican outside groups had to spend $18 million defending a district where the party’s candidates won easily for decades.

Mr. Trump’s approval ratings continued to fall steadily over the course of the race, and Ms. Handel at times took active steps to distance herself from the president.

And on the same night, a little-watched special election in South Carolina gave the Republican Party another scare, as an obscure Democrat, Archie Parnell, came within 3,000 votes of capturing a solidly Republican congressional district. Turnout in the election was tepid, and the close margin was seen in both parties as a function of Democrats’ greater enthusiasm for voting in a low-key race.

Nick Everhart, a Republican strategist in Ohio, said the party should not allow its relief at having kept Democrats at bay turn into complacency. Up to this point, he said, Republicans have been beating Democrats only on solidly red turf.

ā€œTo pretend that there are not serious enthusiasm-gap issues with the G.O.P. base and more crucially, independents fleeing, is missing the lessons that need to be learned before truly competitive seats are on the board,ā€ Mr. Everhart said.

Still, the immediate aftermath of the Georgia election was plainly tougher on the Democratic side, where activists, donors and lawmakers have grown weary of special elections that end with a better-than-usual showing by a defeated Democrat. That pattern, which also characterized recent congressional races in Kansas and Montana, may put Democrats on track to gain power in the 2018 elections, but 17 months is a long wait for a party hungry for immediate victories.

The lack of a signal success for Democrats during this season of special elections has also left open existential questions for the party, which might have been resolved by a smashing win of one kind or another. Had Mr. Ossoff won on Tuesday night, it most likely would have emboldened the party’s moderate establishment and made his campaign — waged in broad promises of economic growth and cautious language about Mr. Trump — a model for other races.

Instead, populist forces on the left took Mr. Ossoff’s defeat as an occasion to criticize the whole notion of centrism as a Democratic strategy. Jim Dean, the chairman of Democracy for America, a liberal activist group, blasted Mr. Ossoff overnight for ā€œlighting millions of dollars on fireā€ and delivering an ā€œuninspiring messageā€ that he predicted would fail again in 2018.

ā€œThe same, tired centrist Democratic playbook that has come up short cycle after cycle will not suffice,ā€ Mr. Dean said in a statement.

Outside the activist wing of the party, the Georgia result opened a new and potentially bitter debate about nonideological matters, including who should be the Democrats’ public face in Congress.

Lachlan McIntosh, a South Carolina-based Democratic strategist, said the party had to confront just how unpopular its current leadership is in conservative areas. With some Democrats questioning whether they should have invested more in Mr. Parnell’s near-miss campaign, Mr. McIntosh said bluntly that, if Mr. Parnell had ever become a cause cĆ©lĆØbre like Mr. Ossoff, national Republicans would simply have blasted him with the same anti-Pelosi message that worked in Georgia.

ā€œThe problem will persist for Democrats next year,ā€ Mr. McIntosh said. ā€œThey can’t ignore how very unpopular their leadership is with many voters. It’s not fair or justified, but it’s real.ā€



Instead of actually working for Americans and taking care of this nation so we can have something to give the next generation...besides a yoke of Debt...perhaps, it's time to take away the recesses, the pensions, the salaries, the benefits and with the exception of the State of the Union address move their elected asses back to the masses so we can see how they operate. We have this wonderful "new" invention[sarcasm] called Telepresence...there's no need to be in DC and being in the Legislative Branch is NOT an occupation!
rfenst
9 years ago
The advertisement was the most disgusting political ad I have ever seen. Did the Republican ever denounce it?
DrafterX
9 years ago
Yes... but it did happen... 😟
MACS
9 years ago
I never saw it, but anything politicians do (D or R) doesn't shock me anymore.
rfenst
9 years ago

I never saw it, but anything politicians do (D or R) doesn't shock me anymore.

MACS wrote:



This would have. It's probably on Utube somewhere.
Abrignac
9 years ago

The advertisement was the most disgusting political ad I have ever seen. Did the Republican ever denounce it?

rfenst wrote:




This is as far as I'm concerned home server part dieux. If the leftist idiots didn't do stupid things there would nothing to use.
dstieger
9 years ago
I have tuned out last couple/few days...didn't know about the controversy and hadn't seen the ad until now...TBH, it isn't exactly tasteful, but I wouldn't have gotten to the words outrage, nor even disgusting, I don't think. I know the dem that the ad is referring to, but can't recall his name...shortly after the shooting, he said something to the effect that targeting R's was a good idea...or at least that's the gist that I got. I don't think he was a congressman, but some sort of party big-wig...I think. At any rate, I thought that he was more disgusting than the ad. He did have the nads to show up on Fox News...(w/Carlson, maybe?)...but, he wouldn't even acknowledge that he f'd up or had used poor judgement....ads from PAC's, which don't have rules or ethics...vs. a party mover/shaker who represents the actual Democratic Party....I don't give the PAC a pass...but I'm not as outraged by the ad as I was by the fool from the dem party
dstieger
DrafterX
9 years ago
I'm sure the Dems would never try to use Trump's words against him and the Republicans... 🤐
opelmanta1900
9 years ago
I watched... actually laughed the entire time...I like it when they said that things like this shooting and the kathy griffins isis video "wouldn't stop" if ossoff won... like somehow putting one more republican in office is going to finally quiet down the violent left extremists...
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