delta1
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8 years ago
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-census-poverty-income-20170912-story.html 


Middle class incomes are on the rise. Up 5.2% in 2015 and 3.2% in 2016...exceeds high from 1999 (adjusted for inflation)


THANKS Obama!!! (2015 and 2016)


and THANKS Bill!!! (1999)
Burner02
8 years ago
You need to check with military personnel, military retires, military disabled and SSA recipients to see what they think about the pay raises and Cola increases during that time frame or for that matter his entire presidency.

Does your praise include the $15 an hour for burger flippers?
bgz
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8 years ago
$15 is the new $8.

Everything basically costs double now... Thanks Obama!!!
DrafterX
8 years ago
Yep.. and Obama-care is alive and well.. 😟
delta1
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8 years ago
we all agree that one can make any number of points about numbers and that more can be done to improve the lives of average Americans...but facts are facts...

Congress determines the rate of pay for members of the military, not the President...

the cost of living since 2008 to the present has increased by 13.5%. It costs $113.49 to buy the same goods that cost $100 in 2008.


https://www.aier.org/cost-living-calculator 


I am sure that if there are similar numbers, ie., if wages for average Americans go up by 3.2% or more, in 2017, the Trump Administration will point to that as proof that it is doing a good job for the American worker, and rightly so. I hope that the rates of increased wages is higher, and if so, Trump should bask in the glow...
Burner02
8 years ago

Congress determines the rate of pay for members of the military, not the President...

delta1 wrote:




And who was driving the bus during this time?


Let me answer...........Obama and a Democratic majority congress.
deadeyedick
8 years ago

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-census-poverty-income-20170912-story.html


Middle class incomes are on the rise. Up 5.2% in 2015 and 3.2% in 2016...exceeds high from 1999 (adjusted for inflation)


THANKS Obama!!! (2015 and 2016)


and THANKS Bill!!! (1999)

delta1 wrote:



This flies in the face of everything Bernie ever told us.
bgz
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8 years ago
I'm just glad Bernie is not in there, he would be "trying" to give away everything for free, and make us pay for it.

At least that's what he said he was gong to do.

Personally, I think he would have got demoralized pretty quick when he realized that people don't really want their wallets raided.
DrafterX
8 years ago
I heard there was a recording of him talking about grabbing snatch... 😟
frankj1
8 years ago
close, he said snatch 'n grab
DrafterX
8 years ago
Who knew Bernie was a freak... 😟
delta1
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8 years ago

And who was driving the bus during this time?


Let me answer...........Obama and a Democratic majority congress.

Burner02 wrote:



Obama only had a majority during his first two years, from 2009 until the beginning of 2011, and only had a super majority/filibuster proof number of Dems in the Senate for 72 days, during which he got Obamacare passed.

In 2008, the basic military pay rate for E-1 was $1347.
in 2011, the basic military pay rate for E-1 was $1467. ($100 more in three years)

Under Obama's first two year period in office when he had a majority in Congress, two years, military pay went up 8.9%.


In 2010, the GOP won majorities in both the House and Senate, and began controlling Congress from early 2011 until the end of Obama's term as President, running a full-court press in opposition to anything Obama wanted to do.

In 2011, the basic military pay rate for E-1 was $1467.
In 2014, the basic military pay rate for E-1 was $1531. ($64 more in three years)
In 2016, the basic military pay rate for E-1 was $1567. ($100 more in five years...it took Obama+Dem Congress 2 years)

The GOP controlled Congress during Obama's term raised military pay by 4.36% during their first three years, about half of what Obama did during his two years with a friendly Congress. During the entire period of GOP dominated Congress during Obama's watch, nearly 6 years, military pay only went up 6.8%

Truth matters...
DrafterX
8 years ago
I never got my free Obama-stuff damnit..!! 😠
delta1
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8 years ago
ooooo....alright.....I'll letcha in on a real secret....don't tell anyone else....

to get your free stuff, you gotta go to a mostly/all minority voting district, register to vote as a Democrat, and then vote Dem for at least one election cycle....
bgz
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8 years ago
Translation...

Yo, that ghetto booth Yo, don't even need dat id to hit dat sh17... den bam... ring ring ring obama phone!
Burner02
8 years ago

Obama only had a majority during his first two years, from 2009 until the beginning of 2011, and only had a super majority/filibuster proof number of Dems in the Senate for 72 days, during which he got Obamacare passed.

In 2008, the basic military pay rate for E-1 was $1347.
in 2011, the basic military pay rate for E-1 was $1467. ($100 more in three years)

Under Obama's first two year period in office when he had a majority in Congress, two years, military pay went up 8.9%.


In 2010, the GOP won majorities in both the House and Senate, and began controlling Congress from early 2011 until the end of Obama's term as President, running a full-court press in opposition to anything Obama wanted to do.

In 2011, the basic military pay rate for E-1 was $1467.
In 2014, the basic military pay rate for E-1 was $1531. ($64 more in three years)
In 2016, the basic military pay rate for E-1 was $1567. ($100 more in five years...it took Obama+Dem Congress 2 years)

The GOP controlled Congress during Obama's term raised military pay by 4.36% during their first three years, about half of what Obama did during his two years with a friendly Congress. During the entire period of GOP dominated Congress during Obama's watch, nearly 6 years, military pay only went up 6.8%

Truth matters...

delta1 wrote:



Al, will admit I was wrong on my comment about the Democrat controlled congress, had not had my first cup of coffee of the morning. For what it is worth the Republicans did not gain control until 2012.

Also, following are the mil pay raises, and cola's for mil retirees, disabled vets, and SSA for 01-16. These are the actual numbers so spin them any way you want.

YR..........................Mil Pay.......................Cola's
01.............................4.1..........................2.6
02.............................6.9..........................1.4
03.............................4.7..........................2.1
04.............................4.2..........................2.7
05.............................3.5..........................4.1
06.............................3.1..........................3.3
07.............................2.7..........................2.3
08.............................3.5..........................5.8
09.............................3.9...........................0
10.............................3.4.......................... 0
11.............................1.4..........................3.6
12.............................1.6..........................1.7
13.............................1.7..........................1.5
14.............................1.0..........................1.7
15.............................1.0...........................0
16.............................1.3.........................(.3)
delta1
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8 years ago
not trying to spin...just looking at numbers, which since 2011, are pathetic...we can and should do more for our military...with our economy on solid ground again, there's no excuse for Congress to continue the lag in wages for active and retired military...
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