delta1
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8 years ago
The lunatics are keeping score...58* is the new record...
(* means number likely to go up due to the people who may succumb to their critical injuries)


NRA succeeds/profits, since gun sales usually spike after mass killings...

A good man with a gun in the crowd would not have helped here, unless we allow open carry of scoped or semi-auto rifles...

Suspect is not known to have a history of mental problems...

The Carnage continues...

dammmmm....
victor809
8 years ago
Nothing.

I believe nothing can be done and nothing should be done.

The world isn't safe and was never intended to be safe. People need to stop trying to make it safe (both sides do this they just have different irrational fears they are trying to protect themselves from)...

People need to buck up. You bury and mourn your dead and push on.
MACS
8 years ago

Nothing.

I believe nothing can be done and nothing should be done.

The world isn't safe and was never intended to be safe. People need to stop trying to make it safe (both sides do this they just have different irrational fears they are trying to protect themselves from)...

People need to buck up. You bury and mourn your dead and push on.

victor809 wrote:



Wow. I agree with Victor. 🤔

Well stated.
jjanecka
8 years ago
Not known to have mental problems? I heard he was a sex offender and a registered Democrat.
JadeRose
8 years ago
All info I've read is that the suspect was......nobody and everybody. Financially sound accountant. Not known to have mental problems. Liked poker and going on cruises. Not anti-Government...not anti-Trump. Not a known nazi or antifa kinda guy. Prolly smoked the occasional cigar and could have fit in fine right here.


There is nothing that could have stopped what happened. It's not Trump's fault or the NRA. It's not pro-gun or anti-gun. It's just a sh*tbag with a rifle and hate in his heart. As Victor rightfully says, we can politicize it or we can mourn the dead and move on.
Speyside
8 years ago
Very true Victor.
bgz
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8 years ago
The only thing that will prevent "me toos" is if the media quit releasing the names of the shooters and giving them their fame.

I agree with victor... Not much you can do about it.

Edit:

Deleted a piece of a thought I forgot to finish (and flat out forgot the thought so I couldn't finish it).
Krazeehorse
8 years ago
Victor got it right.
jjanecka
8 years ago
I think Vic's nuts finally dropped.
DrafterX
8 years ago
It's been said before and we've seen evidence.. people will use whatever they have to kill.. if they don't have a gun they'll use a knife or a truck or car.. or even a Crock-Pot..

We'll prolly never know what this bassard was thinking.. he stewed for a few days in that room tho... 😟
Brewha
8 years ago
It is one thing for a law abiding American to own a six shooter to protect themselves. Or a shot gun, or a bolt action deer rifle.

But Americans believe that almost everyone should have access to almost anything. Assault rifles that are easy modified to be military grade automatic. Magazines as big as can be carried. As much ammo as you want. Weapons you can fight a war with - all alone from a hotel room if you like.

So as the body count runs to 59, let’s remember that we don’t believe that there is not any difference between the types of weapons that citizens might own. Especially as there are bill now that would expand the right of Americans to have silencers - just because they might want them. You know, for protection, or sport. Or incase you’re really having a bad day.







Couple of people here on the forum have argued that we should be able to buy hand grenades at walmart.

Guess if this guy had full and proper rights he would have hade RPG’s.....
DrafterX
8 years ago
There's prolly tens of millions of gun owners with over a dozen weapons.. if this guy couldn't get a gun he would have built a bomb.. 😟
Brewha
8 years ago
Of course - no reason not to sell grenades at walmart.

Because limiting access to really, really dangerous weapons is pointless - and of no value.
Did I get that right?
DrafterX
8 years ago
tannerite has been on the streets for years.. as far as I know nobody's ever used it to kill... Grenades at Walmart won't happen but I have no doubt someone could get one if they really tried.. 😟
DrafterX
8 years ago
We don't know where he got the automatic weapons but they are highly restricted already.. if he didn't have the license to own them he was breaking existing laws.. is there another law that would have stopped him..?? 😕
victor809
8 years ago
Honestly brew...

Meh.

I think people should have access to anything. If he wanted to shoot a dozen RPGs at the crowd he should have the right to buy them. More people would die. But I don't think we should get too hung up on whether the death count is 5 or 5000....

Human life isn't that precious that we need to make sure only certain people have the means to end it in large quantities....
Brewha
8 years ago

Honestly brew...

Meh.

I think people should have access to anything. If he wanted to shoot a dozen RPGs at the crowd he should have the right to buy them. More people would die. But I don't think we should get too hung up on whether the death count is 5 or 5000....

Human life isn't that precious that we need to make sure only certain people have the means to end it in large quantities....

victor809 wrote:


Ah, but as a misanthrope, you are (hopefully) only a minority. And not in line with society as a whole.

But what about the rest of us who think that the kid next door buying sticks of dynamite is not a good idea - even if it offends his rights as an American?
I know - too bad for us.

Just to put this in perspective, you’re good with people pizzing in the streets, right?
Brewha
8 years ago

We don't know where he got the automatic weapons but they are highly restricted already.. if he didn't have the license to own them he was breaking existing laws.. is there another law that would have stopped him..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:


Well, “laws don’t stop crime”, as I have often read here.

So why have laws at all?

Next time you get a speeding ticket, you should ask the cop; “Why even have a speed limit, it didn’t stop me?”




So, maybe law are about deterrence.....
DrafterX
8 years ago
And when broken penalties are paid.. breaking the law is a choice.. 😟
bgz
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8 years ago

Well, “laws don’t stop crime”, as I have often read here.

So why have laws at all?

Next time you get a speeding ticket, you should ask the cop; “Why even have a speed limit, it didn’t stop me?”




So, maybe law are about deterrence.....

Brewha wrote:



Congratulations, you've won the strawman post of the day.
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