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opelmanta1900
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8 years ago

Upwards of 20 injured, no suspects in custody...

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HuckFinn
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8 years ago

They're now saying the suspect is in custody.
Many dead...

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

Clearly whatever it is we're doing to address the school shooting phenomenon is not working.

Luke753
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8 years ago

My heart just stops every time these alerts come across my phone.

MACS
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8 years ago

*heavy sigh*

No words.

teedubbya
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8 years ago

🙏

it hurts my heart

bgz
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8 years ago

Clearly whatever it is we're doing to address the school shooting phenomenon is not working.

HuckFinn wrote:

Only thing that will work is for the media to quit covering them. If they keep putting the shooters names' in lights, it'll never end.

That won't happen though, because school shootings are profitable for the media. To deflect, the media will start publishing gun control propaganda.

In other words, there's nothing anyone can do about it.

teedubbya
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8 years ago

I don't believe that would stop it. It would only stop the ones who were motivated by fame. The media is just an easy target.

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bgz
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8 years ago

I think most of them are motivated by fame.

Why else do it if you don't want everyone to know what you did?

Edit:

And you know the media salivates every time there's a mass shooting.

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teedubbya
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8 years ago

#10

Absolutely on your last sentence. There are many reasons why it happens, one of which can be fame.. But that's not the only reason. People are sick.

I just don't think the media not covering it will stop it, nor do I think it is their fault. We all want an easy solution, I don't think it exists. Media or no media.

I also think the folks with agendas come running like ambulance chasers when these things happen. Pro and anti gun, as well as the blame the press crowd among others.

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teedubbya
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8 years ago

#11

to get in front of this ban cars, ban knives, ban the press, stump the band

bgz
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8 years ago

#12

Ya, my general opinion is what I said before, I don't think there's anything that can be done about it.

I agree, people snap for a variety of reasons, and when you're dealing with 100s of millions of individuals... some are going to snap. It's just the way it is.

You changed my mind after a little thought. Now that it's almost trendy, I doubt it would make much of a difference if the media covered these incidents less.

teedubbya
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8 years ago

#13

I don't know man. I don't get it or understand it. It really makes me sad. My daughter is still in school and it makes me sick this is even a possibility. I pray for those that made it out as well as those that didn't. How horrific.

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gummy jones
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8 years ago

#14

nauseating

paulkeck
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8 years ago

#15

I got 2 daughter's in school and it makes me sick every time I hear about these! I mean I just don't understand, we were all picked on at school at some point. I just never ever thought of killing anyone over it. And hell I love in Texas where guns are plenty

opelmanta1900
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8 years ago

#16

What does one do - in the environment of today - if they've got a son or daughter that they're about to enter into the American educational System? Do you say "nothing i can do, just have to send my kids off for 8 hours a day to an essentially softcore prison and cross my fingers, hoping the school they attend doesn't happen to accidentally breed one of these special kinds of monsters that can do something this horrific?"

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#17

It's our society. This isn't happening anywhere else. We're the perfect storm. Welcome to the new wild wild west. American kids have been so desensitized by technology that antithapy has set in. Our kids lack empathy and civility. And they're in pain. Enough of them anyway.

Violent video games are especially to blame i think, but glorified violence is everywhere, t.v., movies, news.
So killing en masse has become just another option. A commonplace solution.
Kids can't distinguish between what's virtual and what's real anymore. Kill!?!!

If we're gonna try to solve this i think it has to start with the kids themselves.
They have to tell us, tell each other what's really happening and what they think might fix it.
Adults seem clueless.

bgz
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8 years ago

#18

opelmanta1900 wrote:

To be fair, even though school shootings seem really common, they're actually rare. The school your kid goes to is highly unlikely to be shot up, and furthermore... if the school your kid goes to does get shot up, your kid is unlikely to be one of the victims.

So just like anything else, you can't really live your life and base decisions of something that there's "nothing you can do about it".

opelmanta1900
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8 years ago

#19

17 dead... the words "Highly unlikely" are ringing hollow in the ears of 17 children's parents, friends, siblings and loved ones...

bgz
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8 years ago

#20

HuckFinn wrote:

The idea that everything needs to be banned for your own good is one of the primary reasons I started leaning more right than left.

Just like every point in history, the vast majority of people are normal (thus the definition of normal), and some are going to be a little sick and twisted (or a lot).

I can assure you, video games do not make kids want to go kill people. Sane people have a firm grip on what's real and what's not, for you to claim otherwise is not rational. Such thinking will have you thinking every kid out there with a Nintendo switch is going to pull a gun on you and shoot you dead. Not only is that not true, but such thinking can be detrimental for your own sanity.

I do agree with your last point though indirectly, I think to give your kids a solid foundation, then communication is a must. I imagine that most people who commit these heinous crimes have a hard time with communication for one reason or another. I would also think it's probable that their parents didn't spend a lot of time trying to communicate with them.

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