DrMaddVibe
8 years ago
https://www.eff.org/cases/fbi-geek-squad-informants-foia-suit 


Where's that confounded Jones?

"The relationship goes back at least ten years, according to documents released as a result of the lawsuit."

http://www.zdnet.com/article/new-documents-reveal-fbi-paid-geek-squad-repair-staff-as-informants/ 

A "weaponized" FBI???

How could that happen?
delta1
8 years ago
Sounds similar to what happened a few decades ago, when local photo film developers would notify law enforcement if images they came across in their work showed evidence of crimes, including child pornography and child abuse.
teedubbya
8 years ago
I wouldn't call it weaponized unless they targeted certain individuals. I think that's taking fact and trying to force feed it in to an existing opinion.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/07/591698708/fbi-used-paid-informants-on-best-buys-geek-squad-to-flag-child-pornography 


The real crime is using the geek squad.

Speyside
8 years ago
So are you advocating that child porn on a computer shouldn't be reported? I don't think an expectation of privacy on a computer should be expected when the computer is in for repair. The issue to me is the payment.
teedubbya
8 years ago
I take issue with it if they actively looked for it.
DrafterX
8 years ago
Freaks... 😟
Speyside
8 years ago
TW, I agree.
victor809
8 years ago
Honestly i thibk youre legally required to report it aren't you?
Speyside
8 years ago
I memory serves me right that is the law in about 20 states.
frankj1
8 years ago
much like teachers and others required to report what appears to be child abuse.
teedubbya
8 years ago
Even in Alabama?
Gene363
8 years ago
Gee, the FBI should use this idea to help stop mass shooters.. Oh, wait, never mind.
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago

Gee, the FBI should use this idea to help stop mass shooters.. Oh, wait, never mind.

Gene363 wrote:



Thank you Gene.
frankj1
8 years ago

Gee, the FBI should use this idea to help stop mass shooters.. Oh, wait, never mind.

Gene363 wrote:


are you saying they should at least have the same level of records as Divisions of Motor Vehicles?

Actually, a quandry for me.
delta1
8 years ago
head spinning...


never in my lifetime did I think that libs would be defending the FBI in the face of con denunciations of the "nation's top law enforcement agency" (quoted phrase used to be a proud slogan spoken by cons) ...


since when did child porn... same category as pedophilia...become a much lower priority than politics...
frankj1
8 years ago

head spinning...


never in my lifetime did I think that libs would be defending the FBI in the face of con denunciations of the "nation's top law enforcement agency" (quoted phrase used to be a proud slogan spoken by cons) ...


since when did child porn... same category as pedophilia...become a much lower priority than politics...

delta1 wrote:


since that well known libturd J. Edgar Hoover ran the Bureau.


The young 'uns will believe that.
Gene363
8 years ago

are you saying they should at least have the same level of records as Divisions of Motor Vehicles?

Actually, a quandry for me.

frankj1 wrote:



No, all the data in the world is worthless if you don't act. People saw something, they reported something and the FBI did nothing.

BTW, if you're angling for some national registry of firearms, you can buy, sell, trade and posses all the vehicles you desire without ever registering them. You and unlicensed children can even drive them on private property.
teedubbya
8 years ago
I’m against a registry but that’s a losing argument in so many ways.

Quality improvement. You learn from what went right and what didn’t. You don’t hold out what didn’t as a reason to do nothing or in this case a reason to not do what should have happened.

This was a case of one. The it wouldn’t have stopped this case defense is weak anywhere but in a political conversation because it lacks logic and truly intellectual honesty.

I love my guns. I don’t want to register them because I don’t want to get targeted for having them by this government or the one in place 100 years from now.

I also can’t drive my cars on my 1/8th acre lot so guess I need to register them. By the way even if I do only drive them on my 1/8th acre lot I need to register them to pay yearly state taxes.

Wouldn’t it suck if we had to pay a yearly gun tax to fund benefits for families effected by gun violence? You wouldn’t technically have to register your guns but years down the road there could be tax implications.

Let’s find the nih and cdc and allow them to study the issue. That ban shows lack of logic and a dogma. I keep hearing this or that won’t help anything while we make sure it’s not proveable either way. Dogma.

I know I know science and scientific methods are bad, tainted and political thus ignoring them or eliminating them are the only logical solutions. Also institutions of higher learningvare commie lib factories so really those with less education are the smarter ones statistically speaking.
teedubbya
8 years ago
But to the op it’s easy to me. Geek squad or anyone doing similar work would only be looking at what they need to to complete their work. Need to know. They should not be investigating. If in the normal course of work they see illegal activity they should report it. If they don’t they are in a perilous position.
frankj1
8 years ago

No, all the data in the world is worthless if you don't act. People saw something, they reported something and the FBI did nothing.

BTW, if you're angling for some national registry of firearms, you can buy, sell, trade and posses all the vehicles you desire without ever registering them. You and unlicensed children can even drive them on private property.

Gene363 wrote:


the truth is I'm not for it, but thought I'd cause a stir.

I believe I have told this before, but my father, a Kennedy Lib, had a German pistol he brought back from WWII. For some reason it could never fire.

I was pretty young, early '60's, when the city in which we lived asked all residents with guns to please register at City Hall, some seemingly innocuous reason was given...

My father refused, even though his gun was disabled, and explained to me that though we had a "friendly" government at the time, things change and one day they could use the voluntary list to confiscate everyone's guns. He made the danger of that event pretty clear in the big picture of America in light of what he had witnessed just 20 years earlier...and what his parents and grandparents had lived through in Europe.

The lesson stuck with me.
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