The whole idea was to put the US in the best position to bring peace to the region, negotiating a peace agreement between the Israelis and the Palestinians...


Guess no one told, or invited, the Palestinians...seems like we have clearly taken sides here, leaving peace orphaned again...


Well done, Jared...#-o

The Palestinians chose to riot, they voted for and are the bitches of Hamas, a terrorists group.

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1) The "Palestinians" aren't interested in peace.
2) Aren't embassies usually in national capital cities?

sadly, the Palestinians are pawns. Going all the way back to the creation of the modern state of Israel, there was also an offer to create Palestine. They were told to refuse and wait until Israel was destroyed and all would be "reclaimed" by the morons still pulling the strings.

The offer has been resurrected and refused several times in the interim. The puppeteers who pull the strings for the Palestinians for Prime Time news do not show Israel on their maps. Tell me how one negotiates with that.

70 years later, the manipulated-for-the-media pitiful (and they really are) Palestinians are human shields for Hamas and the PLO, merely a step above sacrificial lambs. Anyone remember that Yesyou Ar-a-fart died with like billions in the bank? His lambs starve, still.

at the time of the original two state proposal, not one Arab nation was willing to give one inch of sand to these largely nomadic people, and only Jordan will offer citizenship to any immigrants resettling out of all other Arab countries. Still true.

Step in front of bullets, they are told, and eventually you will "resettle" in your homeland...except that homeland belonged to the Jews long before the prophet Mohammed was even born.

Inconvenient truth...they were pretty much displaced versions of Arab Gypsies, never even had their own country, check Trans-Jordans if I recall correctly (my typing is fueled by vodka and a big Celtics win). They were ousted trash to the area's big wigs while the Jews were dispersed.

And as for claims to Jerusalem in particular, building your mosque on top of Solomon's Temple kind of says it all. How do you claim a capital when you were never a country...EVAH?

Yes, I am definitely biased, yet accepting of differing opinions cuz I'm awesomely open minded...as long as the one opining really knows the true history and not just news clips intended to create outrage. Your emotional reaction should be directed at Hamas and PLO and Fatah who readily lead sheep into death to make sympathetic headlines.

They can have a country. First they have to say Israel IS a country.

The Palestinians definitely want peace... but as I've heard it explained "first we take care of Saturday, then we'll take care of Sunday"... meaning peace comes after, first, the death of the Jews, then the death of the Christians... it's a sad situation...

the Palestinians we see on TV have no value to the leadership. The leadership wants all the land "from the river to the sea" (The Jordan to The Mediteranean) which is why Israel does not appear on the maps in their offices.

I truly believe the that vast majority of the followers of Islam, including many decades of fine citizens of the USA, are as horrified as the rest of us by Radical Islamic activity, and yet they remain silent.
They need to step up with some rhetoric.

I think internationally a lot has been done to create this possibility. A lot of trades were recently made with Saudi, Ægypt, Lebanon, et cetera starting at the beginning of Trump's term. Y'know they did all this terrorist negotiation and all of a sudden Oman was caught funding some bad stuff, Al Jazeera kinda had a muzzle forced on them and now there's anti-terrorism offices all over the middle east ran jointly by the US and our network of Middle Eastern allies. To me that's what created this atmosphere where perhaps some of our key allies are willing to make some concessions to allow this to happen.

It's been a long time coming. The Jews need this to be resolved already. As always this is going to be a bittersweet thing because of the nature of the situation but I give my 100% support in favor of Israel.

Just to clarify when I said terrorist negotiation I meant that we negotiated with other countries to kick those guys out.

I don’t support unarmed protesters being gunned down no matter what their beliefs.

If you believe that's all there were was unarmed people in that mess, you're delusional. We're talking about a terrorist organization here who believes the definition of peace is world where Islam is all that there is. That is the definition of their "religion of peace" you know... death to all the Jews, Christians and anyone else they deem unworthy (basically everyone else).

That's why there will never be peace in the middle east, both sects of Islam can't even get along with each other, let alone the rest of the world.

I never stated that I believed they were all unarmed; some were throwing rocks and stuff…guess they deserved to die.

Over 60 Palestinian protestors dead, closing in on almost 3,000 injured (maybe more by now??).
Israeli soldiers killed or injured = 0.

Israel has issues, but Palestine has more. I wish this wasn't true but it is.

They've had good chanced with way to many concessions to them and they rejected it. Now Israel has taken sides with the Sunnies, against the Shias. So far it looks like a smart play.

You blame Israel for this? Hamas is where your infuriation should be pointed.

On another note, do the shiats even keep good enough records to know who the descendants of muhammad are?

Kinda hard to figure that one out considering how many women he raped.

Sounds like Israel needs a wall

Is it rape if Allah told him to do it..?? 😕

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Frank, I don't know the history well enough to comment other than to say that someone could accept everything you've said in 4 above...100%...and still hold a justifiable position that the Israelis have used 'excessive' force

Trump better get busy...his coveted Nobel Peace Prize is slipping through his fingers

I used to be of the mindset that Israel was always right and the Palestinians were always wrong. I was pretty set on that and thought the rest of the world was wrong, especially the UN and the need for the US to veto certain things was because we were right and they were wrong. Funny how when China or Russia do that they are wrong.

The person that made me rethink the issue was LeHockeyDad. He made some very valid points, knows the history and based his opinion on facts (rather than blame Hamas without anything to back it up). I suspect he has not only read a lot, but has experience in the area through travel and actual discussions with folks directly involved. I could be wrong.

He didn't swing me to the Israel is bad side, but did move me far away from they are pious. They are not. One thing for sure is to be an everyday Palestinian living in the area (not a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer) is to be a prisoner of Israel. There is no freedom of movement, there is no freedom to work or choose housing, there is no freedom to trade or create markets, and there is no freedom of human dignity. You can argue Israel has to do that for their own security (or justify shooting unarmed protesters) but that does not change the facts on the ground. As for Hamas, its no wonder some Palestinians support them given their forced living conditions. That doesn't justify it but it does give you some understanding of why.

As long as there is a hard line Israeli security (or oppression) position, or an hard line death to Israel (or we want our freedom and land back) movement there will be trouble. Both sides are convinced they are absolutely right and we over here choose one or the other. Neither is pure, neither is right.

If forced I'll back Israel, but they are pretty douchey at times. We should be more center of the road or neutral if we want to broker peace (if that is possible), and there will be no instant gratification in that. If you want a quick resolution it aint commin. If we've given up on that and are choosing sides I too would choose Israel. But lets not pretend.

You want to stick Trump on a fence post? Good luck