tailgater
8 years ago
Why do liberals cheer when Squaw Elizabeth Warren screeches about wealthy people paying their "fair share".

But then they accuse President Donald Trump of offending other NATO countries when he points out that they're not paying their "fair share"?


Back in 2006, the NATO nations agreed that each should target 2% GDP for defense spending.
In 2018 only 5 countries comply, with the US by far the highest in both percentage and total dollars.
Everyone else is below. Some WAY below.

So now that Trump is revealing this scam to the world, the solution is:
To comply by 2024.

Bravo.

They couldn't do it in 12 years, so we'll just tack on another 6 years and hope for the best.

Fingers crossed...





Krazeehorse
8 years ago
And if being told you need to pony up offends you then tough shiite. I don't really care if they are offended. Like I always told my kids, whoever writes the checks makes the rules.
bgz
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8 years ago
I agree, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Everyone just expects us to save their azz when the sh*t hits the fan.
Buckwheat
8 years ago

Why do liberals cheer when Squaw Elizabeth Warren screeches about wealthy people paying their "fair share".

But then they accuse President Donald Trump of offending other NATO countries when he points out that they're not paying their "fair share"?


Back in 2006, the NATO nations agreed that each should target 2% GDP for defense spending.
In 2018 only 5 countries comply, with the US by far the highest in both percentage and total dollars.
Everyone else is below. Some WAY below.

So now that Trump is revealing this scam to the world, the solution is:
To comply by 2024.

Bravo.

They couldn't do it in 12 years, so we'll just tack on another 6 years and hope for the best.

Fingers crossed...

tailgater wrote:




Tail you identified the problem. NATO only agreed to try and reach a target of 2% of their GDP. I don't disagree with everything trump is trying to do. I generally disagree with his methodology. I see him like a bull in a china shop. He still thinks he is the CEO of not just the US but the whole world. He fails to see that he is neither. 🐴
ZRX1200
8 years ago
^ yup I agree with you but I think it's also him showing that we are the lone superpower. Again I agree.
bgz
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8 years ago
Ya, I just think he needs to stay TF off twitter.
victor809
8 years ago
.... Apples and oranges.

I agree that it would be nice if out NATO allies would comply with the agreements which have been made. But this has nothing to do with "paying their fair share".
The 2% gdp of troop expenditures doesn't go to anything. It's just an agreed amount of military readiness in the event that military force is needed.

This is the equivalent of the neighbors in a HOA not maintaining their lawn as the HOA requires.... "Paying your fair share" would be the equivalent of an HOA member not paying their dues. This is not that case.

So does it suck? Yes... It's a violation of an agreement. Is that a dumb, tortured false equivalency in tails poorly formed argument? Yes, yes it is a dumb, tortured false equivalency.... But he's degenerated to constant attempts at trolling...so we don't expect much else.
ZRX1200
8 years ago
He does his best trolling work on twitter.
opelmanta1900
8 years ago
I don't get it.... both are fairly round, both have a peel, seeds inside, a high vitamin c content.... both are fruit... there are a lot of shared traits between apples and oranges... i don't see the need to villainize the comparison...
victor809
8 years ago
True.... Perhaps I should have said it was "Apples to moronic Twitter president's"
dstieger
8 years ago
No matter where you come down on 'Trump', ya gotta love this photo...hope it wasn't 'shopped'
https://qz.com/1325858/nato-summit-2018-a-photo-of-trump-and-world-leaders-that-is-too-obvious/ 
opelmanta1900
8 years ago
I just saw that... quartz is the only place I've seen it, so for the moment I'm assuming it's a shop job... good one though...
deadeyedick
8 years ago
They all look left for a reason.
opelmanta1900
8 years ago
It's like the camera guy said "everyone look over here" and trump said "the day i take directions from a camera man is the day i show my unedited tax returns" and the guy to his immediate left said "i don't wanna look like a p*ssy but i don't wanna look like a rule breaker either... maybe if i face this way but then kinda look this way..." and the guy behind him was like "i don't speak very good the English, what we are doing?"
bgz
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8 years ago

They all look left for a reason.

deadeyedick wrote:



^ this
tailgater
8 years ago

.... Apples and oranges.

I agree that it would be nice if out NATO allies would comply with the agreements which have been made. But this has nothing to do with "paying their fair share".
The 2% gdp of troop expenditures doesn't go to anything. It's just an agreed amount of military readiness in the event that military force is needed.

This is the equivalent of the neighbors in a HOA not maintaining their lawn as the HOA requires.... "Paying your fair share" would be the equivalent of an HOA member not paying their dues. This is not that case.

So does it suck? Yes... It's a violation of an agreement. Is that a dumb, tortured false equivalency in tails poorly formed argument? Yes, yes it is a dumb, tortured false equivalency.... But he's degenerated to constant attempts at trolling...so we don't expect much else.

victor809 wrote:



You must love being wrong.

tailgater
8 years ago
It's funny that people like Victor don't see how the 2% makes it all work.

NATO is a group of nations that support each other militarily.
That only works when each carries their own load.

Look at Germany.
They're crying that they want NATO (the USA) to protect them from Russia.
Meanwhile, Germany (yes, the same Germany) is in deals with Russia (yes, the same Russia) for their fuel. A nice pipeline that makes Germany the biggest fuel export from Russia.

Germany is confident in this deal because if Putin flexes his muscle they have NATO support.
Support from the group where they refuse to own up to their obligations.

And vic wants to talk about his HOA dues.

I'd call it "Apples and bananas" but he might blush.








victor809
8 years ago

You must love being wrong.

tailgater wrote:



I really do love it.... too bad you always leave me so unsatisfied.

delta1
8 years ago
when the sh*t hit the fan after 9/11, our NATO partners teamed up with us to go after the terrorists...the only time in NATO's history the agreement to help all partners was used...and NATO has continued the anti-terrorist mission that grew out of the response to 9/11 in Afghanistan...

ironic that we are now demanding members to pony up...
frankj1
8 years ago

It's funny that people like Victor don't see how the 2% makes it all work.

NATO is a group of nations that support each other militarily.
That only works when each carries their own load.

Look at Germany.
They're crying that they want NATO (the USA) to protect them from Russia.
Meanwhile, Germany (yes, the same Germany) is in deals with Russia (yes, the same Russia) for their fuel. A nice pipeline that makes Germany the biggest fuel export from Russia.

Germany is confident in this deal because if Putin flexes his muscle they have NATO support.
Support from the group where they refuse to own up to their obligations.

And vic wants to talk about his HOA dues.

I'd call it "Apples and bananas" but he might blush.








tailgater wrote:


but we now prefer Putin to NATO, so we support Germany...no?
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