RMAN4443
8 years ago
https://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2018/07/trump_can_shut_down_his_russia.html 

Trump can shut down his Russia critics with just one move | Marc A. Thiessen
Updated Jul 23, 8:04 AM; Posted Jul 23, 8:00 AM


By Marc A. Thiessen
If President Donald Trump wants to shut down the critics of his performance this week in Helsinki and strengthen U.S. national security, he can do so with one bold move: Announce he is moving out most U.S. forces currently stationed in Germany and sending them to Poland.


The Polish government recently presented Trump with a formal proposal to move U.S. troops from Stuttgart, Germany, to a new permanent U.S. military base in Poland. Trump should take up Warsaw on this offer.
Moving U.S. troops to Poland would be a bold, historic decision on par with Trump's decision to move the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem. Not only would it better position American forces, it also would completely flummox Trump's critics in the U.S. foreign policy establishment.
After spending the past week accusing him of being Putin's puppet, they would look foolish if they turned around and criticized him for antagonizing Russia. And after attacking him for undermining NATO, they could hardly complain that he is taking unprecedented action to shore up the alliance's Eastern flank.
The Polish government recently presented Trump with a formal proposal to move U.S. troops from Stuttgart, Germany, to a new permanent U.S. military base in Poland. Trump should take up Warsaw on this offer.


Such a move would reinforce the tough line the president took on defense spending at last week's NATO summit, by punishing a deadbeat ally that does not meet its NATO commitments and rewarding a steadfast ally that does. Why should Germany -- a country that spends just 1.24 percent of its gross domestic product on defense -- continue to be rewarded with the economic benefit of U.S. bases? Better to station U.S. forces in a country such as Poland that is providing what Trump has called a "truly magnificent" example as "one of the NATO countries that has actually achieved the benchmark for investment in our common defense."
Trump can further argue that Germany's actions beyond its inadequate defense spending have necessitated this move. At NATO, Trump blasted the Germany-to-Russia Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, declaring "it's a very bad thing for NATO." He's right. The pipeline not only makes Germany more dependent on Moscow for energy, it also risks the security of Poland and other Eastern European allies. Right now, all Russian gas exports to Western Europe go through pipelines that cross Poland and Slovakia -- which means Russia cannot cut off gas to NATO allies in the East without also cutting off its lucrative exports to the West. But once the new pipeline is built, sending gas directly to Germany under the Baltic Sea, Russia will be able to shut off energy supplies to Eastern Europe far more easily. Trump can correctly say that he needs to shore up the security of NATO's East European allies because of the German government's sign-off on the pipeline.

The move would also address a major U.S. strategic concern about its ability to deter Russia. The Post recently reported that U.S. military commanders are worried that if they had to quickly move U.S. troops east to head off a military conflict with Moscow, "the most powerful military in the world could get stuck in a traffic jam" as "Humvees . . . snarl behind plodding semis on narrow roads" and "U.S. tanks . . . crush rusting bridges too weak to hold their weight."
Stationing American forces in Poland would alleviate that problem.
As the Polish government points out in its proposal, "a U.S. permanent presence in Poland [offers] a more forward operating location than Stuttgart provides, would greatly alleviate well founded fears that fellow Eastern European and Baltic governments have that Moscow would be able to overtake defending forces prior to the support of U.S. and NATO forces in Stuttgart could provide."
The move would also benefit U.S. taxpayers. The Polish government has offered up to $2 billion to cover most of the costs of building such a base and supporting U.S. troops in Poland, declaring it is committed "to share the burden of defense spending [and] make the decision more cost-effective for the U.S. government." This should be attractive to Trump, who has criticized other allies for not paying enough for the cost of stationing U.S. forces on their territory.

And there is one last good reason to do it: Poland loves Trump. When Trump spoke in Warsaw last year, his speech was repeatedly interrupted by chants of "Donald Trump! Donald Trump!" Such a response would be unimaginable in Berlin.
The U.S. military presence in Germany is a legacy of the Cold War, when we positioned our forces to deter a Soviet invasion from East Germany. Today the need for deterrence is undiminished, but the potential line of contact has moved east. So should the U.S. military.
A former George W. Bush administration aide, Marc A. Thiessen is a columnist for The Washington Post, where this piece first appears. His work appears frequently on PennLive Opinion.






victor809
8 years ago
Do you honestly think he's about to do this?

Because right now it sounds like your asking a hypothetical question about what some imagined critics may say if he does an unlikely action...

That's some irrelevant navel gazing you're doing there....

That's like your imagining what his critics might say if this man, who can't string a sentence together and has no knowledge of science "cures cancer"... We know he won't do this. If he was an individual with the intelligence to accomplish something like that, the critics you imagine wouldn't exist....
DrafterX
8 years ago
Oh yes they would... 😟
victor809
8 years ago
How could you possibly know that?
To "cure cancer" he would have to be a completely different person, with a better education, a different career path,which likely would change his interactions with people.

You are presupposing an individuals response to a completely non-existent situation in which you don't even know the conditions. That's... Just.... Dumb....
DrafterX
8 years ago
Uhhh.. aren't you doing exactly the same thing..?? 😟
victor809
8 years ago
No. I'm saying it's an unknown and predicting the outcome is impossible.

I have not stated that any specific things will occur. I have simply stated that conditions would have to be different than they are now, and that would have required changes early on that would spawn a myriad of possibilities, none of which can be predicted.

Essentially, there are a million possible and equally likely outcomes. You and rman want to bet on one... I'm saying there's a million equally possible outcomes and you nearly guarantee you will be wrong by choosing one.

It's almost like religion... even if there were a diety,You know you're choosing the wrong one... (No there is no diety)
RMAN4443
8 years ago

Do you honestly think he's about to do this?

Because right now it sounds like your asking a hypothetical question about what some imagined critics may say if he does an unlikely action...

That's some irrelevant navel gazing you're doing there....

That's like your imagining what his critics might say if this man, who can't string a sentence together and has no knowledge of science "cures cancer"... We know he won't do this. If he was an individual with the intelligence to accomplish something like that, the critics you imagine wouldn't exist....

victor809 wrote:


Oh, I'd bet you'd still be there.....

he may not have any "Scientific Knowledge", or be able to string together a sentence, but I heard he figured out how to carry an extra towel to the gym in case the gym doesn't have any clean towels...….8-[

victor809
Posted: Tue, Mar 13 2018, 8:49 PM
I have a rant. Fxxking gym is out of towels... they'll be ready in 20 min.

But if I don't grab a towel on the way in to the pool I would literally have to walk through the gym in a dripping wet Speedo to get a towel after I swim.

So I'm stuck sitting in the lobby of this damn gym waiting for a towel so I can do my workout.

Why would I bring a towel. Id have to go through 4 towels a week. I don't want to do that kind of laundry. Its part of the damn gym service.

victor809 wrote:



bring a towel and if you don't need it don't use it, but when you do need it you'll have it

RMAN4443 wrote:



Wait, whut?

You just out-thinked the resident genius?

I gotta think about this....

MACS wrote:



Not a terrible idea. I'd need a bigger gym bag but not a terrible idea.

victor809 wrote:

opelmanta1900
8 years ago

How could you possibly know that?
To "cure cancer" he would have to be a completely different person, with a better education, a different career path,which likely would change his interactions with people.

You are presupposing an individuals response to a completely non-existent situation in which you don't even know the conditions. That's... Just.... Dumb....

victor809 wrote:


What if the cure for cancer was a steady intake of diet coke and fox and friends? Pretty sure he's the right guy to make that discovery...
dstieger
8 years ago

What if the cure for cancer was a steady intake of diet coke and fox and friends? Pretty sure he's the right guy to make that discovery...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



Toss in a bunch of twitting and a little **** grabbing and Hep C might be eradicated, as well! But, the haters wouldn't hate any less
opelmanta1900
8 years ago
True, true... if, today, he gave every child in the world aids, and then tomorrow morning, he cured it, all anyone would talk about is how he gave kids aids...
delta1
8 years ago
he'd likely do the one, not the other...
victor809
8 years ago
Trump is trying to f-k all the children in the world?
victor809
8 years ago
Rman... If you think remembering to take a towel to a location that provides it would have a better chance than a scientific education at finding a cure for something.... Then you may be part of the problem.

The world is complicated. The rules which dictate the way the world works are complicated. This is all information which needs to be understood. The myth of a "street smarts" overcoming education on complex issues is simply that... A myth.

RMAN4443
8 years ago

Rman... If you think remembering to take a towel to a location that provides it would have a better chance than a scientific education at finding a cure for something.... Then you may be part of the problem.

The world is complicated. The rules which dictate the way the world works are complicated. This is all information which needs to be understood. The myth of a "street smarts" overcoming education on complex issues is simply that... A myth.

victor809 wrote:


Damn, your right again....can't get anything past you....the man,"THE MYTH", the legend....](*,)
victor809
8 years ago
Don't be so butthurt....
HuckFinn
8 years ago

Rman... If you think remembering to take a towel to a location that provides it would have a better chance than a scientific education at finding a cure for something.... Then you may be part of the problem.

The world is complicated. The rules which dictate the way the world works are complicated. This is all information which needs to be understood. The myth of a "street smarts" overcoming education on complex issues is simply that... A myth.

victor809 wrote:


I mostly agree, but take a look at Henry Ford. Guy was practically illiterate. In addition to being a scumbag. He overcame some complicated issues. The fluck.
RMAN4443
8 years ago

Don't be so butthurt....

victor809 wrote:


Just pointing out the fact that you state he "can't put together a sentence" and you can't figure out how to bring an extra towel...kind of like the pot calling the kettle black....8-[
victor809
8 years ago
Mhmm... Yet between trump and myself, only one understands molecular structure, protein primary, secondary and tertiary structure, how to protein structure impacts ligand binding, how to artificially produce simple proteins in a host cell and a number of other general skills necessary for the development of a cure for anything...and I'm not even getting into the difficult parts....
HuckFinn
8 years ago

Mhmm... Yet between trump and myself, only one understands molecular structure, protein primary, secondary and tertiary structure, how to protein structure impacts ligand binding, how to artificially produce simple proteins in a host cell and a number of other general skills necessary for the development of a cure for anything...and I'm not even getting into the difficult parts....

victor809 wrote:


And you don't know how to drip dry without a towel?
Dummy.
RMAN4443
8 years ago

Mhmm... Yet between trump and myself, only one understands molecular structure, protein primary, secondary and tertiary structure, how to protein structure impacts ligand binding, how to artificially produce simple proteins in a host cell and a number of other general skills necessary for the development of a cure for anything...and I'm not even getting into the difficult parts....

victor809 wrote:


The man, "THE MYTH ", the legend....


But you couldn't get elected President...8-[
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