delta1
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7 years ago
A new report was just released by the US government about climate change, human causes, current effects and future health, monetary, agricultural, industrial and life style impacts.

https://www.globalchange.gov/content/about-soccr-2 

Totally contradicts Trump's opinions...thought he could stifle all these studies by decree...
RMAN4443
7 years ago

A new report was just released by the US government about climate change, human causes, current effects and future health, monetary, agricultural, industrial and life style impacts.

https://www.globalchange.gov/content/about-soccr-2 

Totally contradicts Trump's opinions...thought he could stifle all these studies by decree...

delta1 wrote:


Has anyone studied the impact of a caravan of 5-10k immigrants converging on the U.S. borders and gaining entry into the U.S. en masse? How will this affect future health, monetary, agriculture, industry, and life styles of the citizens of the U.S.?
These people will need more housing, more education, more food, more jobs, more health care....More land will need to be cleared for housing and farming, more jobs will be needed. If more land is cleared we will lose more trees and farmland, more of our beautiful natural resources will be impacted, which will leave us less clean air and water which can only have a greater impact on the climate.
The Earth is a finite resource, hence the U.S. has finite resources....the more the population increases the greater the urban sprawl and infringement on resources and nature....pretty soon forests and National parks are disappearing, rivers and streams are running dry....just look at what's happening in California, the most populated state in the U.S.
Trump is doing his part to curb this overnight population explosion...people are demonizing him for it...[-( 😣
delta1
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7 years ago
it's a matter of degree...

climate change will affect the entire world's population...

5-10K immigrants is less than the number of babies born EVERY DAY in the US (10,800)...and not all of them will be allowed in...
DrafterX
7 years ago
More fake news... 😟
DrafterX
7 years ago
I'll bet a nice 5er that people are going to laugh their asses off in a hundred years about the whole global warming thing... 😟
ZRX1200
7 years ago
I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.


SteveS
7 years ago

I'll bet a nice 5er that people are going to laugh their asses off in a hundred years about the whole global warming thing.

DrafterX wrote:



I doubt it'll take 100 years for that to happen ... it's only been 50 years since the alarm bells were being rung about global freezing ... we were being told that the glaciers were advancing and that we were in for a new ice age ...

No current attention is being paid to the possibility of a polar reversal ... which is far and away the more probable disaster facing the planet ...
borndead1
7 years ago
In recent conversations with people about climate change, I ask these 3 questions.

1. Do you believe that the wealthy and powerful have too much influence over government policy and legislation? (most people on both sides of the political spectrum answer yes)

2. If there was a study published on handguns, would you accept the findings of that study as legitimate if the funding for the study came from the NRA? (I am very pro gun rights and even I would consider a study like that to be biased)

3. Two part question: what would you say if I told you that the Rockefeller Foundation has spent over $100 million on climate research, and the official position of the Rockefeller Foundation is that they want global climate regulations enforced by the United Nations? What would you say if I told you that British Petroleum (yes, BP) has also spent over $100 million on climate research, and that they advocate carbon pricing (cap and trade)?

Basically, I break it down like this: you can EITHER believe that the wealthy and powerful have too much influence over government policy and legislation, OR you can believe that scientific research *funded by the wealthy and powerful* is gospel and should be used as a guide for government policy and legislation. You can't believe both of those things.

With all that being said, I am not claiming that human activity doesn't have a negative effect on the environment. Of course human activity has a negative effect on the environment. Only a fool would deny that. But I do believe that the degree of that effect is being exaggerated by political and corporate interests.
ZRX1200
7 years ago
Ewok126
7 years ago
I don't know about all that meaning I am to ignorant now on the subject because I pulled myself from that fight a while back. but, I do know this.

1.) Enough people will not change until chit hits the fan and by then its to late.
2.) I don't give a chit no more myself because of number 1 and I am tired of fighting that battle. I will not be around to see the world burn when or if the time ever comes because I will be dead by then.
3.) I use to love to debate and such but now I tend to speak my peace and bounce. I am the "give a dog enough rope" type and I tend to sit back and laugh when they do hang themselves so, I let em have it.
4.) Because of all above, I burnt 8 tires in the back yard this week in the name of all the ignorant. I say piss on em and let God sort em out. Not my fight no more. So, in my last bit of time on this rock I am going to enjoy my life with what little I have left. Meaning I am going to enjoy all of the conveniences that the ignorant have enjoyed all these years since I have denied myself that luxury in my life because of the fight and I am refusing to battle any more.

I gots me some burn barrels ready for Christmas and I have a lot of carbon footprints to make up for.

Happy Holidays to us ignorant phugs!
deadeyedick
7 years ago

I don't know about all that meaning I am to ignorant now on the subject because I pulled myself from that fight a while back. but, I do know this.

1.) Enough people will not change until chit hits the fan and by then its to late.
2.) I don't give a chit no more myself because of number 1 and I am tired of fighting that battle. I will not be around to see the world burn when or if the time ever comes because I will be dead by then.
3.) I use to love to debate and such but now I tend to speak my peace and bounce. I am the "give a dog enough rope" type and I tend to sit back and laugh when they do hang themselves so, I let em have it.
4.) Because of all above, I burnt 8 tires in the back yard this week in the name of all the ignorant. I say piss on em and let God sort em out. Not my fight no more. So, in my last bit of time on this rock I am going to enjoy my life with what little I have left. Meaning I am going to enjoy all of the conveniences that the ignorant have enjoyed all these years since I have denied myself that luxury in my life because of the fight and I am refusing to battle any more.

I gots me some burn barrels ready for Christmas and I have a lot of carbon footprints to make up for.

Happy Holidays to us ignorant phugs!

Ewok126 wrote:




Exactly! Didn't both Hansen and McKibben tell us if we went over 350PPB we would alter the environment to the tipping point and it would literally take many centuries to correct? We passed that and are now around 400PPB.

WE ARE SCREWED!
tailgater
7 years ago

In recent conversations with people about climate change, I ask these 3 questions.

1. Do you believe that the wealthy and powerful have too much influence over government policy and legislation? (most people on both sides of the political spectrum answer yes)

2. If there was a study published on handguns, would you accept the findings of that study as legitimate if the funding for the study came from the NRA? (I am very pro gun rights and even I would consider a study like that to be biased)

3. Two part question: what would you say if I told you that the Rockefeller Foundation has spent over $100 million on climate research, and the official position of the Rockefeller Foundation is that they want global climate regulations enforced by the United Nations? What would you say if I told you that British Petroleum (yes, BP) has also spent over $100 million on climate research, and that they advocate carbon pricing (cap and trade)?

Basically, I break it down like this: you can EITHER believe that the wealthy and powerful have too much influence over government policy and legislation, OR you can believe that scientific research *funded by the wealthy and powerful* is gospel and should be used as a guide for government policy and legislation. You can't believe both of those things.

With all that being said, I am not claiming that human activity doesn't have a negative effect on the environment. Of course human activity has a negative effect on the environment. Only a fool would deny that. But I do believe that the degree of that effect is being exaggerated by political and corporate interests.

borndead1 wrote:



I wish I could fit this on a bumper sticker.

Bravo brother BD, bravo.


Ewok126
7 years ago

Exactly! Didn't both Hansen and McKibben tell us if we went over 350PPB we would alter the environment to the tipping point and it would literally take many centuries to correct? We passed that and are now around 400PPB.

WE ARE SCREWED!

deadeyedick wrote:




Whats this We Chit Tonto. I am going to die of natural causes lol. Here, let me FIFY.


Y'ALL ARE SCREWED! šŸ˜‚

deadeyedick wrote:

Phil222
7 years ago

I don't know about all that meaning I am to ignorant now on the subject because I pulled myself from that fight a while back. but, I do know this.

1.) Enough people will not change until chit hits the fan and by then its to late.
2.) I don't give a chit no more myself because of number 1 and I am tired of fighting that battle. I will not be around to see the world burn when or if the time ever comes because I will be dead by then.
3.) I use to love to debate and such but now I tend to speak my peace and bounce. I am the "give a dog enough rope" type and I tend to sit back and laugh when they do hang themselves so, I let em have it.
4.) Because of all above, I burnt 8 tires in the back yard this week in the name of all the ignorant. I say piss on em and let God sort em out. Not my fight no more. So, in my last bit of time on this rock I am going to enjoy my life with what little I have left. Meaning I am going to enjoy all of the conveniences that the ignorant have enjoyed all these years since I have denied myself that luxury in my life because of the fight and I am refusing to battle any more.

I gots me some burn barrels ready for Christmas and I have a lot of carbon footprints to make up for.

Happy Holidays to us ignorant phugs!

Ewok126 wrote:



I spit my drink out when you started talking about burning tires...classic. And #1 is spot on.
delta1
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7 years ago
victor and tail found agreement that the world is over-populated...we do need to address the world's population...this climate change predicament may be the answer...
DrafterX
7 years ago
didn't i read that the entire world's population could be housed in the state of Texas..?? the world is a big place... yes there are over-populated cities but that could be fixed... 😟
RMAN4443
7 years ago

didn't i read that the entire world's population could be housed in the state of Texas..?? the world is a big place... yes there are over-populated cities but that could be fixed... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


Soylent Green???:-k
DrafterX
7 years ago
it's happened before... 😟
delta1
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7 years ago

didn't i read that the entire world's population could be housed in the state of Texas..?? the world is a big place... yes there are over-populated cities but that could be fixed... 😟

DrafterX wrote:




did I get that wrong? they only agreed that Texas, not the entire world, was over-populated? That aint remarkable...everybody agrees about that...
tailgater
7 years ago
Now Climate Change is killing the sea turtles.
Over 100 off the coast of Cape Cod.
Damn cold temperatures got to them before the plastic straws.

Now if those same cold temps could chase off the seals so the sharks would go away.

Time to burn some of Ewok's tires.


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