reality TV show POTUS is turning this event into a major LAME (look at me everybody) production, and reserving the best seats for his donors....

delta1 wrote:

Never had any desire to get in the mosh pit even before it was Trumpified. Have watched the fireworks from the Carillon, but never down at the Mall. My wife is a photographer and we do go down for certain other specific occasions. As a 'first', she wanted to witness/document, etc. I'd rather not, but will absolutely go along if she wants to. Chit like this always becomes a positive memory even if it sux balls when you're in it.

Not too sure of the VIP details, but if offered a seat, I'd take it. I'd be surprised if big donors don't get special access at every event, public ones, especially...no matter who's in charge

dstieger wrote:

Did you read what you posted, Victor?

Except for the 'joke?' about 'favorite President'......how do your examples make your case?

dstieger wrote:

I know my friends in DC are not going.

Granted... by the time I left DC, going to the Mall was for people who didn't know anyone with a boat on the potomac.... so I'm not sure if their boycott is really anything meaningful.

But I do think you're wrong by saying he isn't doing anything that wouldn't have been acceptable by other presidents. A couple things off the top of my head:
1 - Cordoning off a "VIP" section for RNC leadership?
2 - Speaking at it? (I know this sounds weird, but he's literally making a celebration which in my memory has never involved the president "about him").... I would have been a little miffed if Obama did that, (I will admit less so... but that's more because I have a reasonable level of expectation that an obama speech won't just focus on himself. And I would grant that expectation to any of the president's we've had in my adult lifetime.... except the current one)

victor809 wrote:

Obviously you don’t pay attention when you listen to an Obama speech. He set and broke the record many times for the “I” density in presidential speeches.

Abrignac wrote:

Knew this was coming....sorry for putting it in the 500, but was somehow hopeful it might steer clear of politics, Trump, etc. Shoulda just started a thread here about it.

Sorry for setting it up for failure.

Al, I keep hearing what you're saying every time I turn on any news....but I think it is largely TDS talking...at least at this point. People are pizzed because Trump is doing it....no other rational reason thus far that I've heard.

Substitute 'Obama' for 'Trump' for any single thing about the 4th so far and there'd be nothing but praise and excitement. I haven't heard Trump say anything offensive or political about it....yet. 'Salute to America'....who the fluck gets upset about that?????

dstieger wrote:

Obama named his dog BO... It doesn't get any arroganter than that... [-(

DrafterX wrote: